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Old 09-14-2018, 01:15 PM
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Their DL is good. I think the stampede blue guy said it was likely One of the top DL's we will face this year.

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https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/9/...defensive-line
The DL isn’t much of a surprise. Dalton is though. Hard for me to believe he’ll play the rest of the season as well as he has in these first 2 games. If he does, yeah I think they are a good team. But I just can’t believe he will. Either way at least he didn’t blow up just against the Colts.
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Old 09-14-2018, 01:27 PM
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The DL isn’t much of a surprise. Dalton is though. Hard for me to believe he’ll play the rest of the season as well as he has in these first 2 games. If he does, yeah I think they are a good team. But I just can’t believe he will. Either way at least he didn’t blow up just against the Colts.
Dalton gets a bad rap. But he's thrown for over 4000 yards twice, 25+ TDs 4 times (one year it was 33 TDs), and in 2015 and 2016 threw single digit INTs. He's not Bortles. He's a good NFL QB when he's healthy and has a good coordinator.
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Dalton gets a bad rap. But he's thrown for over 4000 yards twice, 25+ TDs 4 times (one year it was 33 TDs), and in 2015 and 2016 threw single digit INTs. He's not Bortles. He's a good NFL QB when he's healthy and has a good coordinator.
That may be true. I definitely don’t see him as a Bortles. I’d label him serviceable. But after looking at his career stats it’s possible I underrate him some. In fairness my perception has been colored a lot by his playoff performances. That’s been just brutal.
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Dalton gets a bad rap. But he's thrown for over 4000 yards twice, 25+ TDs 4 times (one year it was 33 TDs), and in 2015 and 2016 threw single digit INTs. He's not Bortles. He's a good NFL QB when he's healthy and has a good coordinator.
He performs above average when he has supporting talent. I don't think he elevates the play of the guys around him though like a Rogers or Luck. But I agree he is certainly not Bortles, just a slightly above average QB.
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He performs above average when he has supporting talent. I don't think he elevates the play of the guys around him though like a Rogers or Luck. But I agree he is certainly not Bortles, just a slightly above average QB.
I like to think he has 65% the talent of Peyton Manning.
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I like to think he has 65% the talent of Peyton Manning.
That's a very specific number. I'd rank him in the 15-20 range of starting QB's.
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That's a very specific number. I'd rank him in the 15-20 range of starting QB's.
I would rate Dalton top 10... 15-20 puts him at the bottom of the top and top of the bottom. I think that is selling him a bit short. The 65% of Peyton Manning comment reflects his strong regular season record relative to his post season record, except with 35% less talent than Peyton.

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I would rate Dalton top 10... 15-20 puts him at the bottom of the top and top of the bottom. I think that is selling him a bit short. The 65% of Peyton Manning comment reflects his strong regular season record relative to his post season record, except with 35% less talent than Peyton.

All bullshit of course, but that's the town I live in.
I think there are at least 12 QBs who you'd definitely rather have than Dalton:

Rodgers
Brady
Brees
Luck
Rivers
Roethlisburger
Wilson
Newton
Wentz
Ryan
Stafford
Goff

The only players I would say Dalton has a clear edge on are Bortles, Eli, and the rookies.
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Dalton gets a bad rap. But he's thrown for over 4000 yards twice, 25+ TDs 4 times (one year it was 33 TDs), and in 2015 and 2016 threw single digit INTs. He's not Bortles. He's a good NFL QB when he's healthy and has a good coordinator.
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