A few thoughts on the Seahags loss

[Puck]

Pretty balanced attach. Pass/rush. So I think Rivers changed a lot of plays.

If you think about it. Even with Rivers. We were one of 2 plays from winning against the 2nd best D in the NFL.

Downs read the rout wrong (you could see Reggie explaining it to him on the sidelines) for a walk in TD. Also the last pass was tipped and intercepted that got us into game winning FG range

Yea. Lou was soft on that last drive. That was an issue. But Rivers did not cost us the game. He played well. He wasn't perfect. BUt he played well enough to win.

I'm sure if we lose Monday we may see what Riley has for at least one game.

AR will not see the field again this yr IMO. It feels as if they are ready to move on and will not risk another injury

JMO. and I have been wrong before.

[Puck]

To add to this. I think SF has film on Rivers now and will take away what he was doing against Seattle

[YDFL Commish]

Deep passes are not all about arm strength. If Rivers and Pierce can get together and practice to get some precise timing on sluggos and go routes, we can stretch the field. It is a must.

Timing and trust is all that it takes, the trust come from releasing the ball earlier to compensate for the lack of arm strength.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

Deep passes are not all about arm strength. If Rivers and Pierce can get together and practice to get some precise timing on sluggos and go routes, we can stretch the field. It is a must.

Timing and trust is all that it takes, the trust come from releasing the ball earlier to compensate for the lack of arm strength.

Not saying it will happen. But coming in with three days practice is not a lot of time to get the timing and speed of the game down.

Rivers has never had a big arm especially in his last few seasons. But he needs to understand how good AP is at the jump ball. Throw it and let him go get it

Also. We will have to score a lot because SF offense is pretty good.

They do not have a dynamic pass rush So hopefully it gives him more time

IDK. I am hopeful this gets turned around and we Win for Jim

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by Puck

Not saying it will happen. But coming in with three days practice is not a lot of time to get the timing and speed of the game down.

Rivers has never had a big arm especially in his last few seasons. But he needs to understand how good AP is at the jump ball. Throw it and let him go get it

Also. We will have to score a lot because SF offense is pretty good.

They do not have a dynamic pass rush So hopefully it gives him more time

IDK. I am hopeful this gets turned around and we Win for Jim

Actually, the Seahawks have a higher scoring offense than the 49ers.

[Puck]

Originally Posted by albany ed

Actually, the Seahawks have a higher scoring offense than the 49ers.

I am hoping and praying that Buck and Sauce are back.

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Do I, I don't know, never been put in that position of course. Having said that, and I have to caveat that I was only able to watch the first possession of the game and then a bit of footage here and there on the phone will doing something else, so I want to get that out on the table.


But having clarified all that- so far I have seen NOTHING from this game, that said the Rivers decision put us in a better position to win this game than would have playing RL. I have never been a big RL proponent going all the way back to him being picked up by ND, I have publicly stated he can't ben an NFL QB because he cannot complete passes from traditional QB schemes- standing in the pocket, reading, and reacting- he isn't good at it. However, I am also convinced one of the reasons we were successful jumping out to 7-1, was because we took advantage of DJ's mobility and SS's ability to scheme up some good shit. Further, our coach, is widely credited, perhaps has his current job, because he took a rough, inaccurate, but very athletic QB, to a SB title. So he has this pedigree, this is his forte.

So somehow, the best decision was to go away from what he has proven to be good at- leveraging the athleticism of his QB and innovative play-calling to get all they could out of his QB's skills, somehow instead the best approach was to suddenly revert to a static stand in the pocket approach, and with a guy that can't throw the ball with ANY velocity at all and can't push the ball 15+ down the field?

Sorry, I have seen nothing that says this was a good decision because PR could make calls at the line- to run the fucking ball off the LG 90% of the fucking game.

And since we were SO effective at it last week, we'll do it again this week, against another stout ass defense that is just as capable of stiffling the run and making you make plays from the QB position.

Sorry, more and more it seems SS is kind of just a puss. The last drive where Seattle carved us up to win the game, man at some point you have to fucking tell your DC- we aren't going to sit back in this bullshit cover that has allowed them to get enormous yardage all quarter and let them move the ball on this drive---- send your fucking guys... one tackle in bounds and we probably get a huge W. Steichen for all his 4th down bravado, actually seems to be a bit of a coward when the cards are down and he needs to do something different to buck the trend.

I can't help but think that if Leonard did start this game and threw a few INTs and the Colts got stomped, you'd be on here bitching about SS and his decision. It's what you do.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by albany ed

I can't help but think that if Leonard did start this game and threw a few INTs and the Colts got stomped, you'd be on here bitching about SS and his decision. It's what you do.

I was out front before the game saying I didn't understand the decision and that RL is much more in the mold of DJ than PR so I didn't understand why we would make such a drastic diversion away from what had been successful for us. This coming from a close RL observer for 2 years before he came here who doesn't believe he is capable of being a QB in the NFL. Still don't see the upside in Rivers over him, he is 44, 5 years removed, couldn't move a lick then and now is just a sitting duck in the pocket and it doesn't take 20 years as an NFL talent scout to visibly see the arm is very weak. What the fuck am I missing that so many others see- including our coach and GM?

What I do is gripe about shit that I think is fucked up, and regrettably that just so happens to happen a LOT with this regime. If I didn't give a fuck, I wouldn't bitch about fucked up shit.

[sherck]

The only thing that makes sense to me to start a 44-year-old Phillip Rivers is that Ballard was told by CIG at the beginning of the season "playoffs or fired."

Playing Rivers does nothing to help the Colts long term. He will be back coaching HS football in 2026. We make no discovery on either Riley Leonard or Anthony Richardson by them riding the bench.

So, this decision to play Rivers is all about trying to make the playoffs.

How likely is that?

[BREAK BREAK]
I was doing a LONG post about our chances to overtake Houston for the #7 seed and was down to the 5th tiebreaker when I realized that it was beyond me.

Bottom line....Indy HAS to beat both JAX and HOU to have a chance based on tiebreakers. A loss to either dooms us.

I think we pretty much have to beat SF as well to have a realistic chance but there is a world where the Texans drop both LAC and IND and we can get away with a loss to SF.

So, it is not for sure over with a loss to SF but then the cards need to align just right for us to have a shot.