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Old 03-16-2025, 10:39 AM
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Yet when given the chance guys like Tyrod Taylor and Tommy DeVito outplayed Jones w/ the same talent around them.



Jones was a good player for Cutcliffe in college and seems to be a decent guy, so of course Cutcliffe is going to have good things to say about him. Fair point on his teammates although that really doesn't mean anything if Jones doesn't start producing.



Fair points. Although I do believe that AR working w/ Allen's QB coach should lead to improvement. And while I've been critical of the signing I do realize that this isn't that bad of a deal since if Jones doesn't turn things around then we just let him walk w/ no long term harm done. I just don't understand all of the love he's getting on here.[/QUOTE]

Devito and Taylor had very small sample sizes and had not played enough to be shell shocked by pummeling, as Jones had.

I don't feel there is that much love for Jones on here. Fields had more love. He was the best choice from a financial and competitive prospective.
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Old 03-16-2025, 10:55 AM
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Yet when given the chance guys like Tyrod Taylor and Tommy DeVito outplayed Jones w/ the same talent around them.



Jones was a good player for Cutcliffe in college and seems to be a decent guy, so of course Cutcliffe is going to have good things to say about him. Fair point on his teammates although that really doesn't mean anything if Jones doesn't start producing.



Fair points. Although I do believe that AR working w/ Allen's QB coach should lead to improvement. And while I've been critical of the signing I do realize that this isn't that bad of a deal since if Jones doesn't turn things around then we just let him walk w/ no long term harm done. I just don't understand all of the love he's getting on here.
Devito and Taylor had very small sample sizes and had not played enough to be shell shocked by pummeling, as Jones had.

I don't feel there is that much love for Jones on here. Fields had more love. He was the best choice from a financial and competitive prospective.[/QUOTE]

I was saying Fields from the beginning also… based off athleticism and the college resume, but the more I think about it Fields has become a run first guy scared to throw into traffic. He hasn’t won anything or played in any big games, unless you count division games in which he couldn’t beat the Packers at all.

Throw into there Fields and AR are buddies jerseys swapped after practice so I highly doubt he was ever an option.

Jones wants to be a starter and is willing to do whatever he has to do.

AR says all the right things but I’m frankly over the off field stories, he’s a great kid that stays and cleans tables for staff members, he’s hungry he’s ready to get to work, he’s involved on the sideline listening to the play calls when he’s injured, he’s working with Josh Allen… blah blah fuckin blah.

Fuck all the charades produce on the field and stay on the field I could care less how many tires you change on the highway
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I just saw a report that we are finalizing a deal with Daniel Jones.



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This is JUST A RUMOR from Twitter ...... it asserts that the Colts are very close to naming who their starting QB will be to open the 2025 season ...... we'll find out soon enough who it is.



https://x.com/nflrums/status/1957160...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Old 08-17-2025, 04:19 PM
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This is JUST A RUMOR from Twitter ...... it asserts that the Colts are very close to naming who their starting QB will be to open the 2025 season ...... we'll find out soon enough who it is.



https://x.com/nflrums/status/1957160...7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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Not a rumor at all, Steichen said at the post-game presser that he was very close to naming a starter.
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Old 08-17-2025, 06:56 PM
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I hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling it will be Jones.

I feel like AR’s disastrous year last year burned his chance with Steichen. And his performance in the preseason so far hasn’t exactly been encouraging.

At least with Jones, Steichen basically knows what he’s going to get. He doesn’t have to worry about Jones blowing basic things like knowing where his hot read is. Or tapping out of the game.

I think a guy like Steichen believes he can game plan around Jones limitations.
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And honestly, if you’re like me and you don’t believe AR will ever be a good quarterback, starting Jones might be the best course of action.

Rip off the band aid right now.

It’ll be another lost year but at least the AR era will be over.
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I hope I’m wrong but I have a feeling it will be Jones.

I feel like AR’s disastrous year last year burned his chance with Steichen. And his performance in the preseason so far hasn’t exactly been encouraging.

At least with Jones, Steichen basically knows what he’s going to get. He doesn’t have to worry about Jones blowing basic things like knowing where his hot read is. Or tapping out of the game.

I think a guy like Steichen believes he can game plan around Jones limitations.
Could very well be the case, Jones may be safer play but he makes everyone’s job easier.

Simple things that are in the QBs control AR still struggles with, getting the play called, getting them lined up, reading the defense, and that swing pass to the RB was terrible. His passes definitely have more zip and he’s definitely more explosive but is it worth it?

I have no idea who they’re gonna start but I’m sure the input from guys like Nelson, Taylor, and Pittman may be the final call
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At this point, I don't see either being what the Colts need for the future. That said, I don't think Jones could make me rethink that statement, but AR just might. Bottom line, I'd go with AR and if he fails, you're done with him. Jones plays if AR gets hurt. Next year, find a way to draft near the top and get a blue chip prospect for your next QB.
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I think you can use this board, as a great reflection on where everyone is with this team and what SHOULD be a huge QB decision- everyone is sort of like- "aye, we're going to suck so what does it even matter". This is deep apathy, and it really sucks.

We went for like 5 days without a single post. Even with joint practices and a pivotal pre-season tilt, really quiet on here. There has been very little energy this offseason and now deep into camp, and to me, that says a ton as without question we are the most engrossed group of fans there is and even we seemingly don't really fucking care.

To me, it says that no one is going to be excited to watch a Daniel Jones led Colts team if that is the route they go. It also says that very few people are real excited to watch AR do things that AR does, despite his occasional super human plays- because they are just sugar highs.

I think Steichen and Ballard go with Jones simply as a desperate move to try to keep a paycheck coming. They both know this year, minus at least one playoff win, maybe 2, they are getting axed. Jones definitely would seem to give them the greatest odds at making that happen- Jones probably has a 40% chance of doing that and AR probably 30%. They both know there is no SB this year, they just need to get to the PO's and try to get a W. AR, he gives them the better shot at a SB at SOME point because with enough time he could have a season or two of sufficient play to do that, whereas Jones I don't think will ever provide that top side, but neither of them have the window available to sink another year into AR's intensive development.

I concur with the statement that when you have two QB's, you have none. I don't think we have a QB. I further don't really believe we have a coach, and I sure as hell don't believe we have a GM. If it's me, I start Leonard and try to win 2 games max. I aim for the # 1 pick and get this shit rebuilt from the bottom floor.
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I think you can use this board, as a great reflection on where everyone is with this team and what SHOULD be a huge QB decision- everyone is sort of like- "aye, we're going to suck so what does it even matter". This is deep apathy, and it really sucks.

We went for like 5 days without a single post. Even with joint practices and a pivotal pre-season tilt, really quiet on here. There has been very little energy this offseason and now deep into camp, and to me, that says a ton as without question we are the most engrossed group of fans there is and even we seemingly don't really fucking care.

To me, it says that no one is going to be excited to watch a Daniel Jones led Colts team if that is the route they go. It also says that very few people are real excited to watch AR do things that AR does, despite his occasional super human plays- because they are just sugar highs.
Kinda hard to refute any of this but I remain a fan in any case. I have not forgot the doormat years and will of course support my Colts regardless of which QB starts.

That said, if I had to make the choice, I would stick with AR who was drafted by this current crew and root for him to take the next step up. At least he can launch those occasional deep ball to the likes of Pierce whereas I think Jones will be very predictable as his lack of stretching the field. "Daniel dink & dunk" seems to be a safer and overpriced (IMHO) choice for a sure bet on mediocrity whereas AR is the wild card yet in my view.

Put all the chips on AR and hope he steps up. Jones as the back up will still be there to step in if no other choice... As for number 3 - still like "Mr. Bean" but Leonard may have the upside here.

Go give em hell Colts!!!
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