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Old 09-19-2017, 04:23 PM
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Tanking is dumb. If Luck comes back, you don't just sit your bajillion dollar QB. Play him. You're paying him.

But is my ideal season one that gets Luck back 110%, while Brissett learns the offense and is at least capable of orchestrating something resembling a NFL offense and while Ballard's first FA/draft class gives reason for optimism ... while losing close ones? Yes, yes it is.
I agree, but just to clarify, I'd imagine you would say that Luck starting Week 17 last year was dumb?

There does come a certain point (at least for me) where there's a point of no return so to speak. Whether it be at 0-4 or 0-6 or 1-5, where you could make the argument for shutting Luck down and not risking him having to do rehab all over again next offseason.

I remember this debate during 2011. I knew that it probably wasn't the last time it was going to happen. I didn't think it would be happening just 6 years later.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:36 PM
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I agree, but just to clarify, I'd imagine you would say that Luck starting Week 17 last year was dumb?

There does come a certain point (at least for me) where there's a point of no return so to speak. Whether it be at 0-4 or 0-6 or 1-5, where you could make the argument for shutting Luck down and not risking him having to do rehab all over again next offseason.

I remember this debate during 2011. I knew that it probably wasn't the last time it was going to happen. I didn't think it would be happening just 6 years later.
The difference being, Luck was not even close to 100% for that game. If he's 100%, he should play. If he's not, he shouldn't.
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Old 09-19-2017, 04:57 PM
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I agree, but just to clarify, I'd imagine you would say that Luck starting Week 17 last year was dumb?

There does come a certain point (at least for me) where there's a point of no return so to speak. Whether it be at 0-4 or 0-6 or 1-5, where you could make the argument for shutting Luck down and not risking him having to do rehab all over again next offseason.

I remember this debate during 2011. I knew that it probably wasn't the last time it was going to happen. I didn't think it would be happening just 6 years later.
nope

you can't make an argument for shutting down a healthy Luck.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:07 PM
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nope

you can't make an argument for shutting down a healthy Luck.
The Colts are 0-15 and Luck is FINALLY healthy enough to go in Week 17.

You're advocating starting him?
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The Colts are 0-15 and Luck is FINALLY healthy enough to go in Week 17.

You're advocating starting him?
Absolutely...gotta see what you got for next year..lol!

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The Colts are 0-15 and Luck is FINALLY healthy enough to go in Week 17.

You're advocating starting him?
Of course
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The Colts are 0-15 and Luck is FINALLY healthy enough to go in Week 17.

You're advocating starting him?
Is this a serious question? Of course you play him........
1. The organization needs to be able to make a full assessment of whether he's capable of returning to high level QB play so they can develop and implement the right off season plan for the QB position.
2. Andrew needs game time reps that no amount of non game practice can give him to get back ready for next year
3. The rest of the offense needs game time reps to reconnect into something resembling a competitive high level unit.
4. The rest of the NFL needs to see that andrew is better than ever so that Ballard and Irsay can recruit the type of head coach that can restore this franchise to excellence and finally
5. The fans need something positive to shake off the stench that this season will have been in your scenario so yes.....

The minute andrew is 100 percent he needs to be on the field. He is a competitive well paid professional and I can't believe he would want it any other way besides the fact that it's what the organization needs for all of these reasons.
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I want him to play as long as him playing doesn't somehow save Pagano's job.
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I want him to play as long as him playing doesn't somehow save Pagano's job.
There is No Way Pagano will be back next year.
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It's complicated with Luck. I'd ask how healthy is he really. You can come back from an injury
where technically you're cleared but things are still precarious, still a bit
raw. In his case it seems to be a major procedure he endured . Do you
want to trust the fledgling recovery to an offensive line that is playing
like it is the beneficiary of his life insurance policy?
On the other hand we really need to know what we have here, post surgery,
because if he's not there and won't be, there are some franchise Qb prospects in this draft.
I wish there was some slide rule that would tell us at what point that shoulder
is sturdy enough for contact given the constraints of this team but there isn't one. There are no easy answers
and whichever route is taken will be thoroughly second guessed. Yuck.
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