Andrew and the Hall Of Fame

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

Well, the three years I'm referring to are 1999, 2001, and 2008. In 2000, he missed 5 games, threw 21tds and 18ints, and they lost in the WC so I tend to omit it as memorable (also worth noting that Trent Green came in during his injury and was throwing for 334yds a game which I think is a testament to that overall offensive team/coaching staff).

1999 was memorable because it was a tremendous MVP/SB year with the story. 2001 was another MVP year, despite 22 interceptions, ending in a SB loss. 2008 had no MVP or SB win, but again had the story with that playoff run.

Majority of the rest of his career wasn't just a case of not living up to those years... they were bad. In 2002, Warner went 0-6. Marc Bulger, who would ultimately take Warner's job, went 6-1 that same year (his one loss was a game where he left the game after one pass and Warner played, so honestly Warner was 0-7 and Bulger was 6-0).

'04 with NYG he had 6tds, 4ints, 12 fumbles in 9 games before Eli took over and then he becomes totally irrelevant until that 2008 playoff run.

And why was 2008 such a Cinderella story? A.) Because Warner had become so irrelevant in the first place... and B.) The Cardinals were a meh 9-7 team that got into the playoffs by winning an awful NFC West division.

His final season in '09 was fine. Medicore stats, but got a WC win. All good, but we're talking about what got him into the HOF and this was a blip at best.

o


In his last 3 seasons with the Cardinals, Warner had stats of 27-17 TD/INT, 30/14 TD, INT, and 26/14 TD INt. The QB ratings inn those seasons were 89.8, 96.9, and 93.2. I wouldn't call any of them bad, or even mediocre. Also, with the Giants, they were 5-4 with Warner, and 1-6 with rookie Manning ...... Warner had a mediocre Giants team in contention for a playoff spot before they decided to bench him and go with their future QB.

The 2008 team was a Cinderella team because they made it to the Super Bowl for the first time in franchise history, and to the world championship game for the first time since 1948 when they were the Chicago Cardinals, not because Warner had become irrelevant in the first place.

Warner didn't even get a full season with the Giants ...... when he got a legitimate chance with another team (the Cardinals), he flourished in the regular season and in the post-season. He had to wait until Matt Leinart failed in 2006 before taking the reigns (successfully) of the team in 2007, 2008, and 2009.

o