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Old 03-12-2023, 09:33 PM
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I know it's still early and a lot can change, and I also know you can't believe everything people say, but I am reading a lot of comments that make me believe the Texans are leaning toward drafting Levis!
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Old 03-12-2023, 11:48 PM
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If he’s the right guy, there IS no issue.
Agreed, the age thing for a QB is overrated and dumb, especially if we are talking about a later pick.
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Old 03-13-2023, 01:21 AM
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WTF are Young and Stroud top 5 QB's in the NFL or top 20 to 25 QB's. You have really contradicted yourself here.
Potential being the key distinguishing word. Throw them in an offense, with 0 improvement, they're bottom third starters. With improvement, they can become top 5.

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I can’t get on board with a 26 year old rookie
I can't get on board with a 22 year old rookie that can't hit the broad side of a barn, but is really fast and strong.
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Old 03-13-2023, 05:39 AM
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Potential being the key distinguishing word. Throw them in an offense, with 0 improvement, they're bottom third starters. With improvement, they can become top 5.



I can't get on board with a 22 year old rookie that can't hit the broad side of a barn, but is really fast and strong.
No matter who your preference is, we have to take a QB with the first pick. I’ll take Levi’s over a 26 year old coming off an ACL
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Old 03-13-2023, 07:36 AM
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I tend to agree with you on this. My question is if Will Anderson is there do you take him and hopefully get your pass rush or do you take a chance on a QB? You need both to have a realistic chance at a title.
Draft Anderson and hope for a decent starter to be available in round 2
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Old 03-13-2023, 08:38 AM
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No matter who your preference is, we have to take a QB with the first pick. I’ll take Levi’s over a 26 year old coming off an ACL
Why? What dictates that the Colts are required to draft a QB? I know Irsay said they're going to draft and develop, but he's also a reasonable owner who listens to his talent evaluation staff. If they're saying the QB(s) left are very likely to bust and very unlikely to produce a starting NFL QB but the best player available is likely to be an elite defender for several years, I think he signs off on that.

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Draft Anderson and hope for a decent starter to be available in round 2
There's no decent starter available in Round 2. Hendon Hooker is a 26 year old who can't hit the broad side of a barn, isn't as strong and fast, and is coming off an ACL tear.
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Old 03-13-2023, 09:48 AM
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Hooker signed with Virginia Tech after winning two state titles and throwing for over 6,000 yards and 55 touchdowns at Dudley High School in North Carolina. As a redshirt freshman, he played in six games as a reserve (4-57-14.3, one TD rushing). Hokies coaches started Hooker eight times in 2019 (the team won his first six starts) and he set a school record with 124 completions without an interception (99-162-61.1%, 1,555 yards, 13 TDs, two INTs passing; 123-356-2.9, five TDs rushing). He started seven of eight games in 2020 (98-150-65.3%, 1,339 yards, nine TDs, five INTs passing; 120-620-5.2, nine TDs rushing) but decided he needed a change in scenery. Hooker took over the Tennessee job early in the 2021 season (11 starts in 13 games) and ended up ranking third in the FBS in pass efficiency (181.4) and fourth with 9.72 yards per attempt (206-303-68%, 2,945 yards, 31 TDs, three INTs passing; 166-616-3.7, five TDs rushing). He threw 140 passes without an interception during the season. Hooker was an early Heisman Trophy favorite in 2022, eventually winning SEC Offensive Player of the Year and being named a third-team Associated Press All-American. After throwing for 3,135 yards (229-329-69.6%) and 27 scores (against just two interceptions) and rushing for 430 yards (104 carries, 4.1 per) and five touchdowns in 11 starts, however, he suffered a torn left ACL that ended his season. Hooker led the nation's top offense (in yards per game and points scored) with an FBS-best 9.53 yards per pass attempt. He also ranked second in pass efficiency (175.5) and seventh in completion percentage in 2022 and set Tennessee records by throwing 261 passes without an interception and recording a touchdown pass in 20 straight games. -- by Chad Reuter

Hooker seems to have had a pretty good college career, and he definitely can hit the inside of a barn
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:18 AM
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Hooker signed with Virginia Tech after winning two state titles and throwing for over 6,000 yards and 55 touchdowns at Dudley High School in North Carolina. As a redshirt freshman, he played in six games as a reserve (4-57-14.3, one TD rushing). Hokies coaches started Hooker eight times in 2019 (the team won his first six starts) and he set a school record with 124 completions without an interception (99-162-61.1%, 1,555 yards, 13 TDs, two INTs passing; 123-356-2.9, five TDs rushing). He started seven of eight games in 2020 (98-150-65.3%, 1,339 yards, nine TDs, five INTs passing; 120-620-5.2, nine TDs rushing) but decided he needed a change in scenery. Hooker took over the Tennessee job early in the 2021 season (11 starts in 13 games) and ended up ranking third in the FBS in pass efficiency (181.4) and fourth with 9.72 yards per attempt (206-303-68%, 2,945 yards, 31 TDs, three INTs passing; 166-616-3.7, five TDs rushing). He threw 140 passes without an interception during the season. Hooker was an early Heisman Trophy favorite in 2022, eventually winning SEC Offensive Player of the Year and being named a third-team Associated Press All-American. After throwing for 3,135 yards (229-329-69.6%) and 27 scores (against just two interceptions) and rushing for 430 yards (104 carries, 4.1 per) and five touchdowns in 11 starts, however, he suffered a torn left ACL that ended his season. Hooker led the nation's top offense (in yards per game and points scored) with an FBS-best 9.53 yards per pass attempt. He also ranked second in pass efficiency (175.5) and seventh in completion percentage in 2022 and set Tennessee records by throwing 261 passes without an interception and recording a touchdown pass in 20 straight games. -- by Chad Reuter

Hooker seems to have had a pretty good college career, and he definitely can hit the inside of a barn
Accuracy and ball placement are lacking with Hooker.
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:33 AM
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Hooker signed with Virginia Tech after winning two state titles and throwing for over 6,000 yards and 55 touchdowns at Dudley High School in North Carolina. As a redshirt freshman, he played in six games as a reserve (4-57-14.3, one TD rushing). Hokies coaches started Hooker eight times in 2019 (the team won his first six starts) and he set a school record with 124 completions without an interception (99-162-61.1%, 1,555 yards, 13 TDs, two INTs passing; 123-356-2.9, five TDs rushing). He started seven of eight games in 2020 (98-150-65.3%, 1,339 yards, nine TDs, five INTs passing; 120-620-5.2, nine TDs rushing) but decided he needed a change in scenery. Hooker took over the Tennessee job early in the 2021 season (11 starts in 13 games) and ended up ranking third in the FBS in pass efficiency (181.4) and fourth with 9.72 yards per attempt (206-303-68%, 2,945 yards, 31 TDs, three INTs passing; 166-616-3.7, five TDs rushing). He threw 140 passes without an interception during the season. Hooker was an early Heisman Trophy favorite in 2022, eventually winning SEC Offensive Player of the Year and being named a third-team Associated Press All-American. After throwing for 3,135 yards (229-329-69.6%) and 27 scores (against just two interceptions) and rushing for 430 yards (104 carries, 4.1 per) and five touchdowns in 11 starts, however, he suffered a torn left ACL that ended his season. Hooker led the nation's top offense (in yards per game and points scored) with an FBS-best 9.53 yards per pass attempt. He also ranked second in pass efficiency (175.5) and seventh in completion percentage in 2022 and set Tennessee records by throwing 261 passes without an interception and recording a touchdown pass in 20 straight games. -- by Chad Reuter

Hooker seems to have had a pretty good college career, and he definitely can hit the inside of a barn
Those seem like pretty good statistics to me !! I would have no problem if Ballard drafted him.
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Old 03-13-2023, 11:39 AM
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Accuracy and ball placement are lacking with Hooker.
What the heck are you talking about? Hooker completed almost 70 percent of his passes last year. That was better than Stroud or Young.

And don’t give me that crap about the offense he played in. They said the same thing about Mahomes. If the guy has talent, that’s not a dealbreaker by any stretch.
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