Hard to come up with a metaphor

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by JAFF

What were the colts before manning showed up? People showed up

Lots of empty seats back in the early 90s, I know I was there. They actually had some good teams in the mid 90s and then when Peyton came into town pretty much a sell out. The Dome only held 57,000 and when they were crap it it was never full. Of course for the first 5 years people came because it was new and exciting, didn't matter how good they were, we had an NFL team!

Right now there is enough optimism for the future that most people (including scalpers) are not giving up their season tickets. But they are selling them to the opposing fan base at an alarming rate, and that will only get worse if they don't get this shit show back on track!

I'm just saying that with cities like San Diego, San Antonio, Portland, Austin, and even Columbus OH if this team is in the cellar of the AFC South for the next 5 years....they might be in trouble! The NFL also wants some teams in Europe at some point....you can only have so many franchises or the talent gets too thin!

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Lots of empty seats back in the early 90s, I know I was there. They actually had some good teams in the mid 90s and then when Peyton came into town pretty much a sell out. The Dome only held 57,000 and when they were crap it it was never full. Of course for the first 5 years people came because it was new and exciting, didn't matter how good they were, we had an NFL team!

Right now there is enough optimism for the future that most people (including scalpers) are not giving up their season tickets. But they are selling them to the opposing fan base at an alarming rate, and that will only get worse if they don't get this shit show back on track!

I'm just saying that with cities like San Diego, San Antonio, Portland, Austin, and even Columbus OH if this team is in the cellar of the AFC South for the next 5 years....they might be in trouble! The NFL also wants some teams in Europe at some point....you can only have so many franchises or the talent gets too thin!

Good post.

It wasn't that long ago, in that window btwn Harbaugh and Peyton that there was growing sentiment that the Colts could move out to LA- and the noise was getting pretty loud for a bit and of course Peyton shut that shit down basically 3 games into his rookie season and you could see what was coming.

Jim is going to have to massively change things up to keep the fan interest. Gonna have to ditch this Ballard mantra of winning the cap space off season trophy as some sort of great achievement. We are going to have to go very young and try to fill in with some high profile vets that will draw local's attention.

I for one, will be glad to see Ballard gone. Dynasties are cool, they are also in many respects, incredible luck and lack of injuries at the QB position. Today's NFL is a short term play for glory, tear it down, repeat the process. He wants to plan this 20 year model of excellence, it's virtually impossible in today's salary cap world where your super stars rapidly consume too much of the cap to maintain an exceptional overall talent level on your team.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Dynasties are cool, they are also in many respects, incredible luck and lack of injuries at the QB position. Today's NFL is a short term play for glory, tear it down, repeat the process. He wants to plan this 20 year model of excellence, it's virtually impossible in today's salary cap world where your super stars rapidly consume too much of the cap to maintain an exceptional overall talent level on your team.

Yep. I was discussing with a friend the other day - would you rather have a decade of sustained success like the peyton years, but only 1 championship OR a period of ups and downs like the eli years where NYGs won a couple but had some shit years in between?

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rcubed

Yep. I was discussing with a friend the other day - would you rather have a decade of sustained success like the peyton years, but only 1 championship OR a period of ups and downs like the eli years where NYGs won a couple but had some shit years in between?

Shitty to say, but I am old. Now, give me instant gratification. I would not have looked at it that way 10 years ago. Things change, Ballard stays the same.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Shitty to say, but I am old. Now, give me instant gratification. I would not have looked at it that way 10 years ago. Things change, Ballard stays the same.

Two SB wins is better than one. I'm 47 now and hoping that the Colts will be challenging for a championship again at some point in my remaining lifetime.

[Brylok]

I WON'T be glad to see Ballard gone. I really, really wanted it to work out, but it just feels...over...now. We're adrift as a football club. Dangerous times here.

[Brylok]

I must be fat-fingering my phone and accidentally hitting emoji buttons. A question mark this time. Ffs. I'm posting too much because I'm worried I guess. Time to leave for a while. Smh

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Good post.

It wasn't that long ago, in that window between Harbaugh and Peyton that there was growing sentiment that the Colts could move out to LA- and the noise was getting pretty loud for a bit and of course Peyton shut that shit down basically 3 games into his rookie season and you could see what was coming.

Jim is going to have to massively change things up to keep the fan interest. Gonna have to ditch this Ballard mantra of winning the cap space off season trophy as some sort of great achievement. We are going to have to go very young and try to fill in with some high profile vets that will draw local's attention.

I for one, will be glad to see Ballard gone. Dynasties are cool, they are also in many respects, incredible luck and lack of injuries at the QB position. Today's NFL is a short term play for glory, tear it down, repeat the process. He wants to plan this 20 year model of excellence, it's virtually impossible in today's salary cap world where your super stars rapidly consume too much of the cap to maintain an exceptional overall talent level on your team.

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The Colts went directly from Harbaugh in 1997 to Manning in 1998.

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[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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The Colts went directly from Harbaugh in 1997 to Manning in 1998.

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Sorry, probably should have clarified the Harbaugh year where we damn near went to the bowl, to the collapse that was the 3-13 season and talk of expansion and us potentially moving. We battled to make the playoffs the year after Aaron Bailey and then we fell off a cliff and there was talk of no longer being here, then Peyton shut all that talk down near instantly in his rookie year despite the crappy record.

[PowayColt]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I'm just saying that with cities like San Diego, San Antonio, Portland, Austin, and even Columbus OH if this team is in the cellar of the AFC South for the next 5 years....they might be in trouble! The NFL also wants some teams in Europe at some point....you can only have so many franchises or the talent gets too thin!

You can rule out San Diego. Qualcomm Stadium where the Chargers played has been torn down. The new stadium where San Diego State plays only seats 35K and is a basic no frills venue. After 42 seasons as an SDSU season ticket holder I'm non-renewing next year. It is not close to being an NFL caliber venue. Petco Park, where the Padres play, is not an option and there are no other stadiums in San Diego County.