Unfortunately ChoppedWood is right

[CletusPyle]

There are 15 games left, I plan to watch them all regardless of who the Colts have as a coach and GM at the end of the season. It looks bleak, and the team has not looked good! But they should have won the game in Houston, they did everything right in the OT and then missed a very makable FG. Yesterday was a train wreck, but this team is too thin in talent to be missing players like Pittman, Leonard, and even Pierce!

Speaking of Pierce, this guy could be a very important piece. He could also be a bust, but he might be another Wes Welker, which would totally change the efficiency of this offense. Getting back Shaquille Leonard could greatly improve this defense, and getting Michael Pittman back in the lineup will make this team instantly better. We have yet to see this team at full strength. I am not defending Reich or Ballard, I believe all the criticism is warranted and more than likely unless this team has a major turn around both of these guys may be gone next season.

Just my two cents, not trying to persuade anyone or make excuses, I have just watched enough football to know that dramatic turnarounds do happen....occasionally!

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

There are 15 games left, I plan to watch them all regardless of who the Colts have as a coach and GM at the end of the season. It looks bleak, and the team has not looked good! But they should have won the game in Houston, they did everything right in the OT and then missed a very makable FG. Yesterday was a train wreck, but this team is too thin in talent to be missing players like Pittman, Leonard, and even Pierce!

Speaking of Pierce, this guy could be a very important piece. He could also be a bust, but he might be another Wes Welker, which would totally change the efficiency of this offense. Getting back Shaquille Leonard could greatly improve this defense, and getting Michael Pittman back in the lineup will make this team instantly better. We have yet to see this team at full strength. I am not defending Reich or Ballard, I believe all the criticism is warranted and more than likely unless this team has a major turn around both of these guys may be gone next season.

Just my two cents, not trying to persuade anyone or make excuses, I have just watched enough football to know that dramatic turnarounds do happen....occasionally!

If you're looking for Alec Pierce to be Wes Welker, prepare to be disappointed. If you're looking for him to be D.K. Metcalf lite, you might not be.

[ChaosTheory]

The only thing Pierce and Welker have in common is being white.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory

The only thing Pierce and Welker have in common is being white.

Really, I hadn't noticed?

How about Jordy Nelson then?

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

If you're looking for Alec Pierce to be Wes Welker, prepare to be disappointed. If you're looking for him to be D.K. Metcalf lite, you might not be.

I don't expect him to be Wes Welker, I was just saying he might end up being a very good possession receiver...I see him working out of the slot position, but I hope this concussion problem was just a freak thing, I'm not aware of him having many injuries problems in college. Jordy Nelson would probably be a better comparison, again not saying he will be as good as either of these guys, just saying he could end up being that type of player if we are very lucky!

[apballin]

Our division is trash…

Beat the Chiefs

Let’s get rolling

[MeSayDayo]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I don't expect him to be Wes Welker, I was just saying he might end up being a very good possession receiver...I see him working out of the slot position, but I hope this concussion problem was just a freak thing, I'm not aware of him having many injuries problems in college. Jordy Nelson would probably be a better comparison, again not saying he will be as good as either of these guys, just saying he could end up being that type of player if we are very lucky!

I don't think either one of these comparisons are apt at all, aside from the fact that you are comparing AP to white receivers. But he is nothing like Welker as a player.
Any recent comparison that I would hope AP can become would be someone like AJ Green. They have a similar build and length. AP is a bit thicker, but likely less nimble.
Only time well tell...so far AP has shown exactly nothing, albeit he did take a huge cheap shot in game 1 that led to his concussion. We need him to step up and start developing, badly

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo

I don't think either one of these comparisons are apt at all, aside from the fact that you are comparing AP to white receivers. But he is nothing like Welker as a player.
Any recent comparison that I would hope AP can become would be someone like AJ Green. They have a similar build and length. AP is a bit thicker, but likely less nimble.
Only time well tell...so far AP has shown exactly nothing, albeit he did take a huge cheap shot in game 1 that led to his concussion. We need him to step up and start developing, badly

Jordy Nelson is almost exactly the same size, and I can easily see Alec being used in a similar way. I have also seen articles from analyst that compared the two. My comparison to Welker was a poor comparison, I admit that, but I was just trying to say he might end up being a bust or end up being a great clutch possession receiver. He supposedly has great hands and runs precise routes.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I don't expect him to be Wes Welker, I was just saying he might end up being a very good possession receiver...I see him working out of the slot position, but I hope this concussion problem was just a freak thing, I'm not aware of him having many injuries problems in college. Jordy Nelson would probably be a better comparison, again not saying he will be as good as either of these guys, just saying he could end up being that type of player if we are very lucky!

It's not the talent level of the comparison that I was taking issue with, it's the play style. You could say Hunter Renfrow and I'd disagree for the same reason. Slot receivers like Welker and Renfrow rely on quickness, agility, and route running ability to create separation. X receivers like D.K. Metcalf, Jordy Nelson, or even Calvin Johnson are big receivers with the strength to get off of a jam, and the speed to run by defenders and make plays using their size and speed. Usually their route trees are far more limited, but they're very effective at using their size and speed to maximize the effectiveness of the routes they run, like "boxing out" a CB using their body on a slant, or beating a jam to win a fade route over the top.