If the Colts Sign Baker

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo

In a sense, I think you are on to something. I would look for a deep threat WR even for trade if we need to. He doesn't have to be Elite, but must keep the D honest.
I wonder what it would take to get Gabriel Davis? Robby Anderson? Tyler Lockett? From what is left on the FA market, there isn't much to get excited about as far as deep threats are concerned. Desean Jackson? No thanks. Will Fuller? He'll be on IR by the end of OTAs. If only AB wasn't Batshit...but if he wasn't, I'm sure he would be well employed at the moment.
The guy doesn't necessarily have to produce, but at least make the D account for his deep presence. Opens things up for JT that much more, and nobody will respect that with Jimmy G or Baker or Ryan. But they will with Winston, because he has a cannon and he's not afraid to let it loose.

I am also disappointed that we haven't addressed TE beyond resigning MAC. For all his freakish abilities, he has shown a lack of fluidity in his route running and general uncomfortableness with absorbing contact.

We have two speedy guys who could fill that role, but one is very raw and the other is oft-injured.

[MeSayDayo]

Winston unquestionably gives us a higher ceiling over Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan definitely gives us a higher floor than Winston.
EVEN

Matt Ryan may require draft picks to acquire and will likely come with a 30+ million price tag.
Winston is a FA and will only cost money to acquire (approx. the same deal Trubisky signed @ 12-15 million per year)
+1 Winston

Matt Ryan is a savvy veteran, former MVP, and a very smart QB. One could assume that he would be able to mentor a young draft pick QB, either this year or next.
Winston has not benefited from longevity or success in any place for a sustained period. I have read about his leadership qualities, but doubt he brings in any tutelage value to the Colts.
+1 Ryan

Matt Ryan is 37 years old and likely only has 2-3 years left.
Winston is 10 years younger and if he hits, has the intangibles to maybe land here for a while. Ballard has said he wants to address the position for now AND the future. If Ryan balls out, it will only be for a year or two, and we are RIGHT back to where we are now with our star players being 3 years older.
+1 Winston

Therefore, you see which move I think makes the most sense both short term and long term (Winston)

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo

Winston unquestionably gives us a higher ceiling over Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan definitely gives us a higher floor than Winston.
EVEN

Matt Ryan may require draft picks to acquire and will likely come with a 30+ million price tag.
Winston is a FA and will only cost money to acquire (approx. the same deal Trubisky signed @ 12-15 million per year)
+1 Winston

Matt Ryan is a savvy veteran, former MVP, and a very smart QB. One could assume that he would be able to mentor a young draft pick QB, either this year or next.
Winston has not benefited from longevity or success in any place for a sustained period. I have read about his leadership qualities, but doubt he brings in any tutelage value to the Colts.
+1 Ryan

Matt Ryan is 37 years old and likely only has 2-3 years left.
Winston is 10 years younger and if he hits, has the intangibles to maybe land here for a while. Ballard has said he wants to address the position for now AND the future. If Ryan balls out, it will only be for a year or two, and we are RIGHT back to where we are now with our star players being 3 years older.
+1 Winston

Therefore, you see which move I think makes the most sense both short term and long term (Winston)

Add in that Ryan's arm has fallen off and laying on the turf in Atlanta, and the choice should be obvious.

[MeSayDayo]

Having said that...If Ryan does become our QB, I would at least hope that we bring in Julio for a year for peanuts

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Puck

My lean right now is (hear me out). Winston and 2 deep threat WR to compliment Pitt. And the D has to decide whether to worry about JT or the deep ball.

Can Frank draw that up?

Winston CAN throw the ball

Other than that... I got nothing

i would rather have mariota than winston

[Butter]

Winston is trash, if we are going for off the street trash I am with Omaha, just get Mariota.

[Lov2fish]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

i would rather have mariota than winston

I'm in that boat. If we are going to scour through the dumpster might as well get one that can run. Winston is Wentz. He won't turn the fucking ball loose until the entire D is in his face, and the result is 50/50 completion to a Colt, or the opposing team. He is just not good and I can't believe people that are allegedly intelligent are singing his praises. Dude sucks.

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

Winston is Wentz..

More I think about it, you are correct

[woodyscolts]

Hold out for 3-4 years and we could have a Manning with maybe a Harrison!

[Coltsalr]

Originally Posted by Lov2fish

Winston is Wentz.

Except more rapey.