Baldy's Breakdowns - Colts / Kansas City

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Tom Brady (yeah, I went there) has played like that for years and no body cares. One bad pass. It was bad because they were in scoring position. Everything else was very good. They had the lead most of the game. He didn't need to force it down the field. He did exactly what he needed to do to keep KC from loading the box.

Something else that doesn't get any pub when there's all this talk of JB dumping dumping dumping. He's thrown two deep throws down the middle that have been huge PI's for Cain. I think the one in KC was the longest penalty in the NFL this year at 53 yards. That doesn't go to anyone's stat sheet but it's a big damn play coming off the arm of the QB.

I will say that I think it was Holder that said if he throws it a 1/2 tick earlier Cain was behind them and it's a certain 6 (assuming he catches it). Nonetheless, it's evidence he WILL throw it down the field- just need to see it more frequently with the set up by these D's that will be loading the box to try to stop the run.

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Something else that doesn't get any pub when there's all this talk of JB dumping dumping dumping. He's thrown two deep throws down the middle that have been huge PI's for Cain. I think the one in KC was the longest penalty in the NFL this year at 53 yards. That doesn't go to anyone's stat sheet but it's a big damn play coming off the arm of the QB.

I will say that I think it was Holder that said if he throws it a 1/2 tick earlier Cain was behind them and it's a certain 6 (assuming he catches it). Nonetheless, it's evidence he WILL throw it down the field- just need to see it more frequently with the set up by these D's that will be loading the box to try to stop the run.

If I recall correctly, Cain did not have his defenders beat on either occasion, and was actually double or triple covered both times. So I don't give credit to Brissett for the fact that we lucked out on getting PI penalties in those circumstances. That seems like playing with fire instead.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Chaka

If I recall correctly, Cain did not have his defenders beat on either occasion, and was actually double or triple covered both times. So I don't give credit to Brissett for the fact that we lucked out on getting PI penalties in those circumstances. That seems like playing with fire instead.

Anyone got the all 22 on this one? Holder said Cain had cleared and just needed an earlier pass...

I do give him credit, those are throws WE HAVE TO THROW to keep these Defenses off balance, have to do it. Can't have it both ways, can't gripe that all he does is check down (admittedly he does it more than I want to see), but then bitch when he throws it deep but guys are covered...

[Chaka]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Tom Brady (yeah, I went there) has played like that for years and no body cares. One bad pass. It was bad because they were in scoring position. Everything else was very good. They had the lead most of the game. He didn't need to force it down the field. He did exactly what he needed to do to keep KC from loading the box.

Brady does not play like this at all.

[Racehorse]

I would love to see what he could do on the defensive line two or three snaps per game. Talk about the ability to destroy a pocket! I bet he could.

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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In my rat's ass of an opinion, the Jets' upset win over the Cowboys this afternoon was as surprising and unexpected as was the Colts' upset win over the Chiefs last week ........ neither team was given much of a chance to keep their respective games close, let alone actually win them.


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Originally Posted by Chaka

Believe it or not, the Colts were bigger underdogs against the Chiefs (10.5 point dogs) than the Jets were to the Cowboys (7 point dogs), so in that sense our win is even more impressive.

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I believe it.

I don't necessarily agree that the Colts' win was more impressive and/or more surprising because of the fact that the odds-makers said so. The Colts had at least played some pretty good football in 3 out of their previous 4 games against the Chargers, the Titans, and the Falcons, whereas the Jets were a complete mess in all of their previous games prior to their win over the Cowboys, with the exception of their season opener against the Bills ........ and it appears to be no coincidence that those are the only 2 games in which Sam Darnold played in.


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