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Old 12-01-2025, 03:18 PM
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In 1967, the NCAA outlawed dunking the basketball, primarily to try to offset the dominance of UCLA's Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.)

So, with a major part of his game taken away, how did Alcindor/Jabbar react to his style being cramped by this new rule ??? He added a now legendary shot to his arsenal, known as "The Sky Hook." If the NCAA had not banned dunking the ball in the first place, Alcindor/Jabbar may never have developed the now fabled sky-hook shot in the 2nd place.


And then along came Jones ...... almost 60 years later, a mobile quarterback by the name of Daniel Jones was signed as a free agent by our beloved Indianapolis Colts. In the first 10 games of the season, Jones and his Colts stormed out to an 8-2 start with Jones having what is by far the best season of his 7-year NFL career. But then, the mobile Jones had his mobility taken away with a broken fibula.

So in their last 2 games, the Colts lost heartbreaking nail-biters to the Chiefs and the Texans. And while Jones' lack of mobility certainly was a factor in those losses, another part of his game actually improved ...... his turnovers. In particular, his fumbling. In the first 10 games of the season, Jones' one glaring weakness in an otherwise excellent season was his tendency to fumble. Jones fumbled the ball 8 times in the first 10 games of the season, with 6 of those 8 fumbles resulting in turnovers. In his last 2 games, the hobbled Jones had 0 turnovers, and he recovered his own lone fumble.

So ...... is there a correlation between Jones' hampered mobility and his ability to secure the ball better ??? As was the case when Alcindor/Jabbar developed his famous sky-hook shot after having another part of his game taken away by a rule change, will Daniel Jones' broken leg wind up actually helping him in the long run with the one glaring weakness that he has had for his entire career, dating back to his rookie season with the Giants when he led the NFL with 19 fumbles in only 13 games ??? Time will tell.

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I cannot believe that people seem satisfied with Daniel Jones as our QB going forward. To me, if this keeps going this like it is and DJ finishes with his best season EVER here, which would mean that at his best he is mediocre, Ballard has shit the bed once again. We have spent the last 9 years looking for a QB who is mediocre. We could have just kept Jacoby and have been done with it. We can be that middling team that gets a big win against the big boys once in a while but we will never compete consistently with teams that have top QBs. If you think I am talking out my ass just remember how we felt when we went up against QBs who were middling when we had Manning and Luck. Felt good and we should have.

Everyone hates on AR because of injury but seems to overlook the fact that Jones has finished exactly one season without losing time to injury and is injured once again this season. He hasn't lost time this year but the offense has taken a shit big time in part because of it according to many here and in the press. Somehow that's not on him yet AR getting a freak injury warming up is all about AR being injury prone. To be clear I don't believe either narrative (don't blame Jones or AR), players get injured, all of them. If you believe in the injury prone player than how is Jones not one also? I am negative because I believe we will end up out of the playoffs (at best a wild card defeat) and will be a 9-11 win team now and for the foreseeable future.
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I cannot believe that people seem satisfied with Daniel Jones as our QB going forward. To me, if this keeps going this like it is and DJ finishes with his best season EVER here, which would mean that at his best he is mediocre, Ballard has shit the bed once again. We have spent the last 9 years looking for a QB who is mediocre. We could have just kept Jacoby and have been done with it. We can be that middling team that gets a big win against the big boys once in a while but we will never compete consistently with teams that have top QBs. If you think I am talking out my ass just remember how we felt when we went up against QBs who were middling when we had Manning and Luck. Felt good and we should have.

Everyone hates on AR because of injury but seems to overlook the fact that Jones has finished exactly one season without losing time to injury and is injured once again this season. He hasn't lost time this year but the offense has taken a shit big time in part because of it according to many here and in the press. Somehow that's not on him yet AR getting a freak injury warming up is all about AR being injury prone. To be clear I don't believe either narrative (don't blame Jones or AR), players get injured, all of them. If you believe in the injury prone player than how is Jones not one also? I am negative because I believe we will end up out of the playoffs (at best a wild card defeat) and will be a 9-11 win team now and for the foreseeable future.
Jones is fine, he just needs to reliably complete his hots against the blitz. He did that the first 8 weeks, the Colts were 7-1 and the offense was performing at historic levels. He hasn’t done that the last 5 weeks, the Colts were 1-3 and the offense has been average. Some of that is on the WRs (Pittman and Downs have dropped some key passes as the hot), some of that is on the playcalling (short passing game seems to have disappeared over the last month), but a lot of it is on Jones not being as accurate in those situations recently as he was earlier in the season. If he does that, the offense and therefore the team will go back to looking unstoppable. If not, we're in for a very long offseason.
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There are a lot of negative Nancy's, who usually want to see the worst.
  • We have a QB playing with a broken leg
  • 345 Park Avenue has screwed us 2 weeks in a row
  • Our LB salutation, with regards to coverage, m,ay be the worst in the NFL
  • Placekicking has sucked
  • I won't mention injuries to players who are not playing, because every team has them
  • The O-Line play has dropped offf
  • Schematically both Anarumo and Steichen have been a tick off
  • We can't generate pass rush when rushing only 4 DL
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Jones is fine, he just needs to reliably complete his hots against the blitz. He did that the first 8 weeks, the Colts were 7-1 and the offense was performing at historic levels. He hasn’t done that the last 5 weeks, the Colts were 1-3 and the offense has been average. Some of that is on the WRs (Pittman and Downs have dropped some key passes as the hot), some of that is on the playcalling (short passing game seems to have disappeared over the last month), but a lot of it is on Jones not being as accurate in those situations recently as he was earlier in the season. If he does that, the offense and therefore the team will go back to looking unstoppable. If not, we're in for a very long offseason.
Dam I agree with all of this. The question I have is which DJ is the real one? I am all in on letting this thing run its course this year but think it's crazy to believe this guy is the future right now. And yes I am a negative Nancy about this team. Comes with rooting for them the last 9 years.
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In 1967, the NCAA outlawed dunking the basketball, primarily to try to offset the dominance of UCLA's Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.)

So, with a major part of his game taken away, how did Alcindor/Jabbar react to his style being cramped by this new rule ??? He added a now legendary shot to his arsenal, known as "The Sky Hook." If the NCAA had not banned dunking the ball in the first place, Alcindor/Jabbar may never have developed the now fabled sky-hook shot in the 2nd place.


And then along came Jones ...... almost 60 years later, a mobile quarterback by the name of Daniel Jones was signed as a free agent by our beloved Indianapolis Colts. In the first 10 games of the season, Jones and his Colts stormed out to an 8-2 start with Jones having what is by far the best season of his 7-year NFL career. But then, the mobile Jones had his mobility taken away with a broken fibula.

So in their last 2 games, the Colts lost heartbreaking nail-biters to the Chiefs and the Texans. And while Jones' lack of mobility certainly was a factor in those losses, another part of his game actually improved ...... his turnovers. In particular, his fumbling. In the first 10 games of the season, Jones' one glaring weakness in an otherwise excellent season was his tendency to fumble. Jones fumbled the ball 8 times in the first 10 games of the season, with 6 of those 8 fumbles resulting in turnovers. In his last 2 games, the hobbled Jones had 0 turnovers, and he recovered his own lone fumble.

So ...... is there a correlation between Jones' hampered mobility and his ability to secure the ball better ??? As was the case when Alcindor/Jabbar developed his famous sky-hook shot after having another part of his game taken away by a rule change, will Daniel Jones' broken leg wind up actually helping him in the long run with the one glaring weakness that he has had for his entire career, dating back to his rookie season with the Giants when he led the NFL with 19 fumbles in only 13 games ??? Time will tell.

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Well, Jones is now under contract with the Colts for 2 more seasons (2026 and 2027), so I guess we'll find out how things will go one way or the other.

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I’d like to formally apologize to Daniel Jones. I abandoned hope too soon. I had long been a card-carrying member of the “Daniel Jones is actually fine” club, but backed out after seeing what a career-threatening neck injury did to his game. I’m back now, though, and hoping that there’s still a spot in the club for a disloyal guy like myself. Jones has recaptured his pre-injury form ...... when toughness in the pocket, athleticism, and an underrated deep ball made him an average starter ..... and seems to have cut down on his processing time, which had also been a major weakness in his game. Some of his other weaknesses persist. Jones’s accuracy comes and goes, and he can be oblivious to pressure. In a supportive offensive environment, which Jones never enjoyed in New York, those faults can be mitigated, as we’re seeing in Indianapolis this season. I don’t want to overstate Jones’s improvement compared to what we saw during his peak as the Giants quarterback. He’s mostly the same passer with a little more refinement. However, his newfound success is proof that he was never as bad as he was perceived to be early in his career.


https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

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IMO, Jones is a good QB, but not a great one. He is commanding an offense that is probably the strongest in the NFL. There are no weaknesses on this offense. He has a multitude of WRs to choose from, a dynamic TE and maybe the best RB in the league. The offensive line is one of the best in league. There are teams with better WRs, but not many have the wide variety that Jones has. I think his biggest strength is the ability to read defenses and choose the right receiver. They can't all be covered well. Being a good QB in a great offense, can turn that QB into an all pro. And, he needs to be, because this defense will be giving up a shit load of points when they play some of the better teams.
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I’d like to formally apologize to Daniel Jones. I abandoned hope too soon. I had long been a card-carrying member of the “Daniel Jones is actually fine” club, but backed out after seeing what a career-threatening neck injury did to his game. I’m back now, though, and hoping that there’s still a spot in the club for a disloyal guy like myself. Jones has recaptured his pre-injury form ...... when toughness in the pocket, athleticism, and an underrated deep ball made him an average starter ..... and seems to have cut down on his processing time, which had also been a major weakness in his game. Some of his other weaknesses persist. Jones’s accuracy comes and goes, and he can be oblivious to pressure. In a supportive offensive environment, which Jones never enjoyed in New York, those faults can be mitigated, as we’re seeing in Indianapolis this season. I don’t want to overstate Jones’s improvement compared to what we saw during his peak as the Giants quarterback. He’s mostly the same passer with a little more refinement. However, his newfound success is proof that he was never as bad as he was perceived to be early in his career.


https://nflrankings.theringer.com/qb-rankings

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Daniel Jones Deserves Not Just an Apology for the Colts' Renaissance, but Also MVP Hype

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https://clutchpoints.com/nfl/indiana...-also-mvp-hype

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(vs. STEELERS, 11/02)



Jones had what was by far his worst game of the season, to-date.

The offensive line, which has been elite all season, had a very bad game also.

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