ColtFreaks.com - Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum   ColtFreaks.com Home Page

Go Back   ColtFreaks.com - Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum > Indianapolis Colts Fan Forum > Indianapolis Colts Discussion
Register FAQ Community Calendar

View Poll Results: Best Rookie?
Pierce 4 12.12%
Raimann 14 42.42%
Woods 5 15.15%
Flowers 0 0%
Cross 1 3.03%
Thomas 9 27.27%
Voters: 33. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #21  
Old 01-02-2023, 06:24 PM
YDFL Commish YDFL Commish is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Mt. Pleasant Wisconsin
Posts: 4,259
Thanks: 3,001
Thanked 3,239 Times in 1,710 Posts
Default

It was a toss up for me between Raimann and Thomas. But I essentially chose Thomas because he has started more games, outplayed a pretty good player in Julian Blackmon and had the least expectations.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to YDFL Commish For This Useful Post:
JAFF (01-02-2023)
  #22  
Old 01-02-2023, 08:57 PM
Hoopsdoc Hoopsdoc is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 3,226
Thanks: 829
Thanked 2,935 Times in 1,397 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by omahacolt View Post
nope. not even close


thomas over him. you could almost say flowers over him
You’re right, I forgot about Thomas.

He’s quietly had a really good season.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 01-02-2023, 09:37 PM
Chromeburn's Avatar
Chromeburn Chromeburn is offline
Post whore
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Posts: 5,517
Thanks: 1,474
Thanked 3,876 Times in 2,165 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaosTheory View Post
What is that ranking based on out of curiosity?

You're right. They're actually closer in snap count than I would've thought (605 to 580). Thomas has just been in there since he bumped Nick Cross in Week 3. Raimann basically had to wait until Week 9 before he got sole possession of LT.
I think its block win rate. Its from PFF. If you agree with their evaluations or not.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 01-03-2023, 01:04 AM
Chaka's Avatar
Chaka Chaka is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 858
Thanks: 336
Thanked 666 Times in 285 Posts
Default

Another solid draft, particularly considering the Colts traded away their 1st round pick.

Hopefully 6th round TE Andrew Ogletree will add to quality of this class when he returns from injury next year. He showed promise in preseason.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 01-03-2023, 08:53 AM
dwilli57's Avatar
dwilli57 dwilli57 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Pocono Mtns.
Posts: 223
Thanks: 377
Thanked 104 Times in 62 Posts
Default

I only picked Pierce because I really haven't paid much attention to this shitshow since probably week 1. The few plays I liked were Pierce's catches. I just don't tend to watch the support people: o-line, db's, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 01-03-2023, 09:26 AM
MeSayDayo MeSayDayo is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2021
Posts: 90
Thanks: 0
Thanked 74 Times in 38 Posts
Default

I really had to think about this one.

I think the big Austrian warrants considering, but I hesitate because ultimately he has contributed to the poorest O-line performance here in decades. He certainty wasn't flawless and had his share of mistakes.

Pierce was too inconsistent, but flashed. If we are docking Pierce for bad QB play, we have to do the same for Rainmann and the O-line play.

I voted for Woods, because his issue wasn't inconsistency. He was the unfortunate culprit of simple underutilization. He has surpassed expectations every chance he was given, and started his career with two catches for two touchdowns. He will be a player for us.

Thomas probably deserves it because he basically became a starter in a solid D unit, and contributed. Having said that, he is part of a much better unit than the aforementioned O players, and therefore he ends up looking better.

My vote stays with Jelani! Put a few pounds on his frame and refine his route running, I like what we have there.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to MeSayDayo For This Useful Post:
CletusPyle (01-04-2023)
  #27  
Old 01-03-2023, 07:58 PM
Brylok's Avatar
Brylok Brylok is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 8,384
Thanks: 2,710
Thanked 3,793 Times in 2,258 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Racehorse View Post
So did I. Ballard found a gem in that guy. Not that the others are slouches, but he looks like the real deal, and should only get better.
Thomas was 2 for me and Woods was 3. Raimann got tossed in to starting LT as a rookie, and he's holding his own and improving. That's it. That's why. WRs can't really be judged because our QB play is so bad.
__________________
Soda's Picks Champion: 2014, 2016
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Brylok For This Useful Post:
omahacolt (01-04-2023), Racehorse (01-04-2023)
  #28  
Old 01-04-2023, 05:05 AM
ukcolt ukcolt is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,311
Thanks: 93
Thanked 375 Times in 193 Posts
Default

It has to be Thomas, he has done his job to a high standard every single week.

I like Raimann, Pierce and Woods, but they have not been consistent week to week. Flowers also looks like he could be a decent depth player, with special abilities in the return game. Nick Cross was very disappointing and barely saw the field of play all year for the defence, we gave up a 3rd round pick from the 2023 draft and our 2022 5th rounder to move up to select him as well. that is not to say he won't produce next year and going forward. But for this season he did little to nothing.

Whilst we are talking about safeties, i think that Rodney McCleod has played really well.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 01-04-2023, 07:44 PM
omahacolt's Avatar
omahacolt omahacolt is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 8,627
Thanks: 1,696
Thanked 4,836 Times in 1,981 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ukcolt View Post
It has to be Thomas, he has done his job to a high standard every single week.

I like Raimann, Pierce and Woods, but they have not been consistent week to week. Flowers also looks like he could be a decent depth player, with special abilities in the return game. Nick Cross was very disappointing and barely saw the field of play all year for the defence, we gave up a 3rd round pick from the 2023 draft and our 2022 5th rounder to move up to select him as well. that is not to say he won't produce next year and going forward. But for this season he did little to nothing.

Whilst we are talking about safeties, i think that Rodney McCleod has played really well.
i disagree based on the difficulty of position.


it is much easier to be consistent playing deep safety than being the LT getting thrown to the wolves
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to omahacolt For This Useful Post:
Brylok (01-05-2023), Racehorse (01-05-2023)
  #30  
Old 01-05-2023, 06:06 AM
ukcolt ukcolt is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2017
Posts: 2,311
Thanks: 93
Thanked 375 Times in 193 Posts
Default

I agree that it is much harder to play left tackle overall than the safety position, but i would caveat that with the fact that there were a lot of games earlier in the season where Raimann wasn't particularly great. He has started 10 games, the first couple he didn't play that much and was part of a rotation from memory. If you were to say he has properly started and completed 8 of those games, 3 were below average, 3 average, and then 2 above average, would that be a reasonably fair assessment of his performances? I would say even in the poorer games, there were still traits shown where you could see he had the ability to succeed.

I like him, and think he is going to be the future going forward at LT. It is nice that we have a few rookies, who have shown potential to be significant contributors going forward from the 2022 class. Pierce, Raimann, Woods and Thomas are likely going to be long term starters, with Eric Johnson, Cross, Ogletree and Flowers being significant contributors for the team as well, this was an excellent draft, so far at least
Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to ukcolt For This Useful Post:
Brylok (01-05-2023), Racehorse (01-05-2023)
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
ColtFreaks.com is in no way affiliated with the Indianapolis Colts, the NFL, or any of their subsidiaries.