AR benched - Flacco to start next game

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by albany ed

If you were a player on this team, would you be good with a decision to play the QB who gives you a lesser chance of winning?

Why not? It’s the culture of the team Ballard has built. Let’s not act like this is the only position that has been gifted to a young player. Fuck that’s been one of my constant criticisms of Ballard. What did he put in front of Kwity and Dayo? The secondary? QB is the one position where it maybe made sense. The team lacks direction and that’s from Ballard. You should either be in win now mode or rebuilding . Ballard constantly tries to do both and the results are exactly what you’d expect - a mediocre team with no identity and no plan.

And I’ll add - Ballard and Steichen are the ones that gifted him the position in the first fucking place. They are the ones that drafted the rawest QB in the draft and said he needs to play from day one. They did that. So what message were they sending the team then? And what message are they sending now? That they don’t know what the fuck they are doing. That’s the fucking message to the team, the media and the fans. They don’t have a plan and don’t know what the fuck they are doing.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by albany ed

If you were a player on this team, would you be good with a decision to play the QB who gives you a lesser chance of winning?

Don't think you can really take this approach and succeed. This would create a scenario where young guys can't get on the field, and not just at the QB position, though that is where it would be most pronounced. This would mean as a team you would always be looking to the FA market to build the team, and that is not a sustainable model. Teams have to be able to deal with the challenges that come with younger lesser experienced players and grow through them.

Obviously for reasons we may never really know, we have decided we can no longer go that route with AR.

[rm1369]

If the team wasn’t giving up on AR and wanted to try to win now here is what should have happened:

He should have been benched at halftime in Houston. He had a bad first half and the team was still in striking distance of a needed win. If he was lazy, if he was late to meetings, if he audibled Shane’s call before half. All of that was already known. If it’s the “tap out” or the press conference those aren’t reasons to give up on him the way they have. Those are conversations with an immature player. Shane should have said AR is still their QB, they are committed to developing him as their franchise QB, this is a multi year process and him getting game experience and then getting a chance to digest and work on what he’s seen is just part of the process. He’s going to sit a few games and he’ll grow and be ready when the team calls on him.

Instead they decided they need to win now AFTER they gave Houston a 3 game lead. Steichen has named Flacco the QB going forward and he can’t predict the future on if AR will start again for the Colts. AR says he’s not been told why he was benched. AR may suck, he may not be mature enough. To me that’s not completely unexpected. But the supposed adults in the room have fucked this up as well. And the only thing worse for a team than instability at QB is a lack of leadership and direction from the coach and GM. Sadly after 8 years of Ballard that’s no more unexpected than AR lacking at this point in his career.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by rm1369

If the team wasn’t giving up on AR and wanted to try to win now here is what should have happened:

He should have been benched at halftime in Houston. He had a bad first half and the team was still in striking distance of a needed win. If he was lazy, if he was late to meetings, if he audibled Shane’s call before half. All of that was already known. If it’s the “tap out” or the press conference those aren’t reasons to give up on him the way they have. Those are conversations with an immature player. Shane should have said AR is still their QB, they are committed to developing him as their franchise QB, this is a multi year process and him getting game experience and then getting a chance to digest and work on what he’s seen is just part of the process. He’s going to sit a few games and he’ll grow and be ready when the team calls on him.

Instead they decided they need to win now AFTER they gave Houston a 3 game lead. Steichen has named Flacco the QB going forward and he can’t predict the future on if AR will start again for the Colts. AR says he’s not been told why he was benched. AR may suck, he may not be mature enough. To me that’s not completely unexpected. But the supposed adults in the room have fucked this up as well. And the only thing worse for a team than instability at QB is a lack of leadership and direction from the coach and GM. Sadly after 8 years of Ballard that’s no more unexpected than AR lacking at this point in his career.

Do you really believe Shane did not tell him why? Of course he did, and both have agreed to keep that part in house. That is why they were so vague end evasive when those questions came up.

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

who on this team has a right to be critical? the podcasting lber boys? fucking garbage. what leader on this team can talk shit? not a one

Well, we're going off the premise that he's lacking in the preparation/effort department on top of historically poor passing. Nobody has played great in every game, but there has been one consistent hinderance and a bunch of close games despite it. They have a right to be frustrated, especially if they feel a better option (Flacco) is available, and ESPECIALLY if effort and professionalism comes into question.

But I haven't seen single guy talking shit. Everyone seems on the same page that he needs to grow up and, at least publicly, they all sound willing to allow him to grow until his opportunity comes again.

Right now with him, they're playing roulette by betting on a single number. Yeah, when they hit, it's 35-1 and fucking amazing. But most of the time, the croupier is just scooping their chips.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Do you really believe Shane did not tell him why? Of course he did, and both have agreed to keep that part in house. That is why they were so vague end evasive when those questions came up.

From Indy Star article:

“Richardson did not get specific about the areas he needs to improve most, in part because he said Steichen and the Colts did not give him clarity on the reasons for the move.

When Steichen made the move, he called Richardson into his office and gave him the news; Richardson said there was not much explanation.”

So either AR was lying or you are wrong. Considering what I heard directly from Stechein’s mouth, I believe he didn’t explain it beyond Flacco is better right now. IMO he went out of his way to put doubt on AR ever being the Colts QB again.

Steichen didn’t say he told AR where he needed to improve, said he couldn’t predict the future though. And AR said he didn’t. So why do you believe he did? Just because it would be stupid not to? I’m sure the team is doing damage control now with everyone pointing out their stupidity in their handling of this. And I’m sure at some point they’ll tell him. But so far it’s been a fucking clown show as usual.

[ChoppedWood]

Listening to a lot of different radio today, man it sounds like there is enough smoke that there is some form of fire re: his lack of professionalism.

If that is the case, if this dude has not been carrying the weight he is mandated to as the #4 pick, well that changes absolutely everything; they have NO CHOICE but to step in and shut him down in this instance in fairness to the remaining 52 dudes.

That said, that should without pause be a sledgehammer to Ballard's grill- GONE. Say what you want about how Irsay and Steichen having signed off on the risks of AR, this part of the evaluation is 100% on Ballard's report card. No way Steichen or Irsay even entertain talking to AR without Ballard doing what he is supposed to do as the GM- due diligence and report back to them that they should sign off on this guy because he hits all the marks. Acting on the premise that it's true, that AR is more Jamarcus than Manning- then AR is a fucking con and Ballard was his mark.

If that's true, how in the fuck do you let Ballard swipe his badge at the door tomorrow morning?

[YDFL Commish]

Is there a reason that the pass blocking is borderline excellent when Flacco plays vs when Richardson plays? To be clear, I mean beyond the in game play. I mean more of a team dynamic.

Steichen says he doesn't know the pulse of the team? I call BS on that one.

Steichen may not have needed to tell Richardson why he was being benched, because he had already harped on him in the previous weeks what he needed to improve on. When he didn't heed that warning, then the righting was on the wall.

If his work habits are that poor, how the hell did Richardson get named a captain to begin with?

Did West 56th shut down this week? I already can count for regular videos from colts.com that have not aired this week?

Has anyone heard of a single player defending Richardson? By defending, I mean disagreeing with this decision?

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by albany ed

If you were a player on this team, would you be good with a decision to play the QB who gives you a lesser chance of winning?

why would you be ok to have ample cap space every year? to watch film every week of Franklin playing like shit and keeping his job? taven Bryan still being on the roster?


they are getting a check. do your job

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by rm1369

Why not? It’s the culture of the team Ballard has built. Let’s not act like this is the only position that has been gifted to a young player. Fuck that’s been one of my constant criticisms of Ballard. What did he put in front of Kwity and Dayo? The secondary? QB is the one position where it maybe made sense. The team lacks direction and that’s from Ballard. You should either be in win now mode or rebuilding . Ballard constantly tries to do both and the results are exactly what you’d expect - a mediocre team with no identity and no plan.

And I’ll add - Ballard and Steichen are the ones that gifted him the position in the first fucking place. They are the ones that drafted the rawest QB in the draft and said he needs to play from day one. They did that. So what message were they sending the team then? And what message are they sending now? That they don’t know what the fuck they are doing. That’s the fucking message to the team, the media and the fans. They don’t have a plan and don’t know what the fuck they are doing.

good post bro