Who do you want at 15?

[apballin]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy

Reportedly, the Jets are exploring trading down from 1.10.

If you look at some of the draft value charts, a trade with the Jets would look something like this:


Jets send:

1.10
3.72

Colts send:

1.15
2.46


Basically a pick swap - the Colts would lose their mid round 2nd round pick and replace it with the Jets early 3rd round pick to move up 5 spots in the 1st Round.

No way, Ballards best picks have been 2nd rounders

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Don't disagree that we need an elite pass rusher at DE. But the most important thing both short and long term is developing AR. So surrounding him w/ enough talent to succeed should be the priority, and (at least IMO) he doesn't have enough weapons in the passing game. Yes, MPJ and Downs fit the bill, but JT and Pierce don't (again at least IMO). While JT's a great runner he is an average pass catcher. Pierce is a one trick pony who struggles to get separation and also struggles to make contested catches. So if we have the chance to add an elite receiver to the mix then we should do so IMO.



No doubt it'll take more than just a late rounder or 2 to move up, but IMO it would be worth the draft capital to move up and draft some elite talent. Like I said before the chances of that are slim to none, but it's something I would like to see.

I think you're wrong on Pierce, he was open deep a lot, problem was Minshew
couldn't get him the ball !!

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy

Reportedly, the Jets are exploring trading down from 1.10.

If you look at some of the draft value charts, a trade with the Jets would look something like this:


Jets send:

1.10
3.72

Colts send:

1.15
2.46


Basically a pick swap - the Colts would lose their mid round 2nd round pick and replace it with the Jets early 3rd round pick to move up 5 spots in the 1st Round.

Jets just watched Brock Bowers at his private workout and now want to trade down. Hmm

[AlwaysSunnyinIndy]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Jets just watched Brock Bowers at his private workout and now want to trade down. Hmm

The rumor was that the Jets were thinking about drafting an OT - that they could trade down a little (and pick up additional draft capital) and still snag a decent tackle in this draft class.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I think you're wrong on Pierce, he was open deep a lot, problem was Minshew
couldn't get him the ball !!

Indeed he was. Pierce ran more 9 routes than anybody in the NFL and he was open on many of them. Richardson will get him the ball.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy

The rumor was that the Jets were thinking about drafting an OT - that they could trade down a little (and pick up additional draft capital) and still snag a decent tackle in this draft class.

They’re having Bowers in for a private workout. Wonder what they’re thinking. I don’t be like that Bowers didn’t test at all during his private workout. If I’m going to downs a top 10 pick on TE, I want C all his workout numbers.

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

I think you're wrong on Pierce, he was open deep a lot, problem was Minshew
couldn't get him the ball !!

Minshew didn't help, but for someone who was supposedly open all of the time like you guys claim he was Pierce sure seemed to have a CB draped all over him most of the time when he was thrown the ball. Even w/ AR like on Pierce's dropped TD pass in week 1. At any rate IMO he hasn't shown enough for us to pass on someone like BTJ.

Although if Bowers is there I'm hoping we take him.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by IndyNorm

Minshew didn't help, but for someone who was supposedly open all of the time like you guys claim he was Pierce sure seemed to have a CB draped all over him most of the time when he was thrown the ball. Even w/ AR like on Pierce's dropped TD pass in week 1. At any rate IMO he hasn't shown enough for us to pass on someone like BTJ.

Although if Bowers is there I'm hoping we take him.

If you have to wait for the ball to get to you, I don't care how fast you are, the CB's will catch up to you !! I'm hoping for either Verse or Latu !!!

[IndyNorm]

Originally Posted by njcoltfan

If you have to wait for the ball to get to you, I don't care how fast you are, the CB's will catch up to you !! I'm hoping for either Verse or Latu !!!

Pierce wasn't getting open w/ AR at QB either. Also, I read in an Indystar article that stated the Cols aren't confident that he'll be able to develop into much more than what he is. I tried to find the article to post the link, but it's over a month old and having trouble finding it. Will try again when I have some more time on my hands.

Understand your desire to draft a pass rusher, and we could use it. I do worry about Verse though as his production doesn't match his ability. Which actually makes him a Ballard type pick.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy

The rumor was that the Jets were thinking about drafting an OT - that they could trade down a little (and pick up additional draft capital) and still snag a decent tackle in this draft class.

Supposedly if you want a good tackle you will have to take one in the first round. The drop-off once you get past the good ones is substantial. Might force a lot of team's hands which is, of course, good for us.