Luck to IR

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by albany ed

So they lied? What about Luck. Do you think the stooges knew more about Luck's condition than he did? Did the doctors ignore HIPPPA? Or did Luck also lie? What about Ballard? He'd have to either be really dumb or in on the lie.

Yes, yes and yes!! He couldn’t practice because of the pain, at the very least he should have been put on IR when he lacerated his kidney. The owner, GM, and coach should have done what’s best for the player regardless of what the player wants

[albany ed]

So Irsay knew Luck's condition when he signed him to that fat contract with 44 million guaranteed? He's even dumber than I thought.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by albany ed

So Irsay knew Luck's condition when he signed him to that fat contract with 44 million guaranteed? He's even dumber than I thought.

I was very happy to hear Stuck and Gunner bringing back into focus the lack of control / authority / inability to govern things by Chuck as an attachment to this issue. They talked about how this injury is not some shot out of left field that snuck up on everyone- that it goes back into the 2015 season and how Chuck and Grigs probably both felt their jobs were in jeopardy and as such probably were susceptible to Luck saying "it hurts but I can go" and then keeping him in despite shot after shot- including last year's brutality. They then brought up the recent demolishment of Jacoby and Chuck's statement that he wouldn't come out- and then flipped it all the way around to Irsay as being the guy that bears the responsibility for allowing a coach and likely GM to jeopardize the franchise out of fear of losing his job- and that's a great summation of it.

Like it or not, Jim Irsay is the top rung of the ladder and when a 15 year prodigy may be done for because he has allowed incompetent cowards to ruin him in the span of 5 years- that is Jim's burden to carry.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

I was very happy to hear Stuck and Gunner bringing back into focus the lack of control / authority / inability to govern things by Chuck as an attachment to this issue. They talked about how this injury is not some shot out of left field that snuck up on everyone- that it goes back into the 2015 season and how Chuck and Grigs probably both felt their jobs were in jeopardy and as such probably were susceptible to Luck saying "it hurts but I can go" and then keeping him in despite shot after shot- including last year's brutality. They then brought up the recent demolishment of Jacoby and Chuck's statement that he wouldn't come out- and then flipped it all the way around to Irsay as being the guy that bears the responsibility for allowing a coach and likely GM to jeopardize the franchise out of fear of losing his job- and that's a great summation of it.

Like it or not, Jim Irsay is the top rung of the ladder and when a 15 year prodigy may be done for because he has allowed incompetent cowards to ruin him in the span of 5 years- that is Jim's burden to carry.

grigs and pagano didn't play luck to save their jobs. they played him because the docs said luck could play. and guess what? he did play. he played very fucking well.

his shoulder just never got better.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

grigs and pagano didn't play luck to save their jobs. they played him because the docs said luck could play. and guess what? he did play. he played very fucking well.

his shoulder just never got better.

And a lot of us posted during that time about how for a guy who should be an absolute dead eye based on his talent and his years in the league he was throwing too many passes off the mark and definitely throwing too high too frequently. We'll never be able to prove it but it sure as fuck is starting to sound like there was a bunch of fucking damage in there and he was / is just "that" good that he could overcome it. So if we as fans make these observations and repeatedly comment about it- shouldn't all these fucking high dollar coaches, trainers, etc... be picking up on this shit? If they didn't well fuck me, I guess it doesn't come as a tremendous shock given the horrible staff we have, but if they did, and they chose not to fucking have it looked into---- well then WHY would that be- for the fucking fun of it Omaha, just for the fucking fun of not knowing why it was happening???

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

And a lot of us posted during that time about how for a guy who should be an absolute dead eye based on his talent and his years in the league he was throwing too many passes off the mark and definitely throwing too high too frequently. We'll never be able to prove it but it sure as fuck is starting to sound like there was a bunch of fucking damage in there and he was / is just "that" good that he could overcome it. So if we as fans make these observations and repeatedly comment about it- shouldn't all these fucking high dollar coaches, trainers, etc... be picking up on this shit? If they didn't well fuck me, I guess it doesn't come as a tremendous shock given the horrible staff we have, but if they did, and they chose not to fucking have it looked into---- well then WHY would that be- for the fucking fun of it Omaha, just for the fucking fun of not knowing why it was happening???

We knew his shoulder was messed up last year due to his odd practice habits. They thought it would get better but it didn't. Not everything is a conspiracy

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

We knew his shoulder was messed up last year due to his odd practice habits. They thought it would get better but it didn't. Not everything is a conspiracy

And when it didn't, and there was nothing fucking done to fix it, who might have been behind that decision? It could have been all the way to the top and been Jim desperately clinging to that SB dream since we were in the AFCCG just a couple years prior, it also could have been a couple fucking idiots (proven by empirical evidence over the span of 2.5 seasons now) who were clinging to the fucking hope of waking up to having their jobs each morning.

Don't lose focus on one very important FACT as I understand it- ANDREW LUCK made the decision to have surgery- and I think it was Irsay who made the first comment along those lines. That and the use of his surgeon would lend some credence to the team (whoever the fuck it is they wear blue clothes with a horseshoe on them) not treating this appropriately from the beginning.

Fuck you and the "conspiracy" shit. There's a lot of anecdotal evidence that you have a coach that wouldn't be able to recognize the need to do something if a guy came off carrying one of his legs in his hands "clap clap pat on butt- get some ice and keep getting out there and chopping that wood".

This isn't my theory by the way assfuck, it came out of the S&G show all I am doing is posting it. And the Jacoby Brissett thing is a visible demonstration of how willing Pags is to sacrifice his guys to destruction- maybe not even to salvage meaningless wins, maybe just because he is that obtuse.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

And a lot of us posted during that time about how for a guy who should be an absolute dead eye based on his talent and his years in the league he was throwing too many passes off the mark and definitely throwing too high too frequently. We'll never be able to prove it but it sure as fuck is starting to sound like there was a bunch of fucking damage in there and he was / is just "that" good that he could overcome it. So if we as fans make these observations and repeatedly comment about it- shouldn't all these fucking high dollar coaches, trainers, etc... be picking up on this shit? If they didn't well fuck me, I guess it doesn't come as a tremendous shock given the horrible staff we have, but if they did, and they chose not to fucking have it looked into---- well then WHY would that be- for the fucking fun of it Omaha, just for the fucking fun of not knowing why it was happening???

Well, it wasn't you posting it. You just joined and started being a drama queen a couple of months ago.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

Well, it wasn't you posting it. You just joined and started being a drama queen a couple of months ago.

I've been on this shit since we were back in the old days where it was Coltsfan and Tsab and 5 other people. I think Ed something or other ran it back then- i.e. like 15 years back.

Drama queen, whatever, we are the die hards, the one's that pay attention to every damn trivial development with our favorite team- i.e why this is a site with a centrus of what, 30 regulars that really do give a shit. For whatever reason there's developed this school / collection that won't call this shit what it is- which is a damn debacle of epic proportions driven into the ground by what I do think at one time was a very solid owner, but a guy I think at this point is a drug riddled incompetent boob who has soiled my favorite team with a massive collection of complete bone head fucks! Fuck yes I am pissed, I am pissed for about 50 fucking reasons, and when I trace them back, I land at the feet of Jim Irsay.

[njcoltfan]

Originally Posted by albany ed

So Irsay knew Luck's condition when he signed him to that fat contract with 44 million guaranteed? He's even dumber than I thought.

You know Ed, you’re making to much sence to be posting on this board!! I’ll have to admit that Irsay signing him to that contract knowing what we all know now seems ludicrous!! I will however, not believe that Grigson, and Pagano to some extent, didn’t know what was going on. Jesus, after the Titan game in 2015 it was reported that Luck couldn’t even put on a shirt.