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Originally Posted by JesusChrist

That's dumb.

When you get the chance to draft a franchise QB and you need one, you do it. The failure to build a team around Luck wasn't because they drafted a franchise QB. They just made stupid draft choices and free agent choices.

The quickest path to success in this league is having a franchise QB. That's why they are so valuable, because they make that much of a difference. You don't EVER pass that up if you have a need there.

I disagree, it's stupid to invest in a franchise QB and throwing them to the wolves, as they did with Luck. How many franchise QBs have been ruined by going to bad teams? Nearly all of them...
By the time you build the team around him, he is out of his rookie contract and the cap becomes a huge issue. Also, free agent builds seldom work. They're free agents because they are no longer cost effective

I recall this board giddy with Pagano and Griggs coming in...

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by testcase448

I disagree, it's stupid to invest in a franchise QB and throwing them to the wolves, as they did with Luck. How many franchise QBs have been ruined by going to bad teams? Nearly all of them...
By the time you build the team around him, he is out of his rookie contract and the cap becomes a huge issue. Also, free agent builds seldom work. They're free agents because they are no longer cost effective

I recall this board giddy with Pagano and Griggs coming in...

people are always optimistic when new people come on board, what does that have to do with anything? Clearly the results from them didn't come through for the team.

You don't plan on throwing a franchise QB to the wolves. To just assume that's what you're going to do is basically saying "I can't do my job, just fire me now." It's a failure way of looking at it. That's not how you approach building a team, ever.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

people are always optimistic when new people come on board, what does that have to do with anything? Clearly the results from them didn't come through for the team.

You don't plan on throwing a franchise QB to the wolves. To just assume that's what you're going to do is basically saying "I can't do my job, just fire me now." It's a failure way of looking at it. That's not how you approach building a team, ever.

don't bother with him, jesus


he is too stupid to be saved.

Originally Posted by omahacolt

don't bother with him, jesus


he is too stupid to be saved.

You calling people stupid is pretty funny .

Your intellectual arguments are like bring kid's safety scissors to a gun fight.

You're like a parrot repeating the imbeciles in ESPN.

Nothing like watching a balanced team with no franchise QB beating the fuck out of a team that drafted one...

[Maniac]

Originally Posted by testcase448

Nothing like watching a balanced team with no franchise QB beating the fuck out of a team that drafted one...

The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.

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@TonyD1070
I am told, by a source I trust, that Andrew Luck will not play this year. Which has obviously been mentioned many times.

[HoosierinFL]

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.

They drafted Bortles with a high pick because they thought he was gonna be one. They were wrong, but they absolutely have tried to get a franchise QB with a high draft pick.

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

The team that drafted one did it to them for over a decade...and to the titans...and to the texans, and most of the league.

Two Super Bowls, one win. Manning caried them there. He had parts of the puzzle in place. Luck isn't Manning, hell BRADY isn't Manning. Name a "franchise " QB that gets this team anywhere for the next several years. IF they survive the beating

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

Here's the thing about your argument. The Jags have a ton of talent, but no franchise QB. They won't win a superbowl without one and they would give up anything to get one so they could compete for a superbowl. They didn't build their team like this because they WANTED to. They are building this way because they can't find a franchise QB, and that is holding them back.

27 to 0, we won't be competetive with them for about 4-5 years now.Or Hoston, or Nashville..Or the Jets or ANYBODY but CLeveland maybe.
Luck is damaged goods. Maybe we get a shot at another franchise QB this year, and next.... and the year after. Drafting first does result in opportunity to draft fanchise QBs. Maybe that's the plan, draft one every few years!

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

I guarantee you that if you asked any GM in the league if they would prefer to start off with a franchise QB like Luck to build a team around, EVERY ONE OF THEM would say "hell yes".

KC builds a solid team, adds Alex Smith...
OAKLAND Derek Carr, 36th pick
Case Keenum Vikings5-2
Bills, Tyrod Taylor LMAO 6th round pick 4-2
Miami 4-2 with Cutler?
Dak Prescott 4th round.. he just beat the fuck outta a team on their field by 30 we BARELY managed to beat at home

Originally Posted by JesusChrist

Get out of here with your dumb ass argument.

My "dumbass arguement"seems pretty not dumbass compared to completely obvious statements like "every GM wants a franchise QB"
No kidding moron. Really?
But here's a gold plated fact, everyone of those teams I just listed are a shit load better than us and not a damn franchise QB in the lot that YOU"D trade Luck for.
Now ask all those drooling GMs if they'd trade TEAMS, give up their solid TEAMS for Luck. What would they give? Which team
The answer is no.