Quick Thoughts on the Giants

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by apballin

He’s a pussy and they enable him

Can’t rely on a guy that plays half the time

Sends the wrong message to the guys playing thru all their injuries, nobody is 100 percent right now

When you need him the most he’s not there

too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.


is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.

there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.


is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.

there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.

Your assumption is the main thing I’m criticizing, he’s missed too many games. I’m willing to live with the turnovers and missed throws I expected all that. A 6-4 250 guy that misses games like he’s Austin Collie or Paris Campbell I wasn’t expecting

Cam Newton missed 3 games his first 6 years in the NFL

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by apballin

Your assumption is the main thing I’m criticizing, he’s missed too many games. I’m willing to live with the turnovers and missed throws I expected all that. A 6-4 250 guy that misses games like he’s Austin Collie or Paris Campbell I wasn’t expecting

Cam Newton missed 3 games his first 6 years in the NFL

athletes want to compete. maybe you are right and he is an outlier where he just doesn't give a fuck. those guys are so very rare that, especially at QB, that I don't think he would have just sat out that game.

why would he? the Giants are terrible. what QB wouldn't want to play them. just doesn't make sense and all of this shit is because Steichen and the colts are fucking dumb and don't understand how to deal with injuries.

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

too small of a sample size. he blew out his shoulder last year. that isn't something you can walk off. this year, if he missed 3 games with all the running he does, I would say that should be expected. he is a physical runner and doesn't have the shiftiness of a guy like Lamar. he is going to get dinged up.


is he a pussy? maybe. I have had back issues so i understand the inability to do things with a fucked up back. could he have played through it? no clue. I don't know and neither do you.

there are plenty of things to criticize him for that we know are issues. I assume if he could play, he would have.

AR seems to be the type of guy who wants to play every game. I think he would have played if he could have.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Racehorse

AR seems to be the type of guy who wants to play every game. I think he would have played if he could have.

So what are you guys implying here?

The team is not letting him play?

Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by apballin

So what are you guys implying here?

The team is not letting him play?

Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin

We are aware of at least one instance where it was stated Richardson wanted to go back in and Steichen opted to sit him. At the time I thought it was a good move designed to encourage him to protect himself. Now I think that’s giving the organization too much credit. Regardless there is at least one instance we know of where he wanted to play and the team said no. After not allowing him to talk to the media, I’m very curious if this was another or not.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by rm1369

We are aware of at least one instance where it was stated Richardson wanted to go back in and Steichen opted to sit him. At the time I thought it was a good move designed to encourage him to protect himself. Now I think that’s giving the organization too much credit. Regardless there is at least one instance we know of where he wanted to play and the team said no. After not allowing him to talk to the media, I’m very curious if this was another or not.

Listening to all these talking heads and all the leaking of dudes being late to meetings, refusing physical treatment to get back on the field, etc...

It sounds like this thing is just absolutely rotting from the inside out. So, with that said, I would not be surprised in the least if this latest issue with AR being "sore" isn't yet another "suspension" with Steichen trying to use his control over AR as a means to convey control. In doing so, to me at least it says he has NO control over this group. This whole thing stinks and needs to be sanitized by a raging fire.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood

Listening to all these talking heads and all the leaking of dudes being late to meetings, refusing physical treatment to get back on the field, etc...

It sounds like this thing is just absolutely rotting from the inside out. So, with that said, I would not be surprised in the least if this latest issue with AR being "sore" isn't yet another "suspension" with Steichen trying to use his control over AR as a means to convey control. In doing so, to me at least it says he has NO control over this group. This whole thing stinks and needs to be sanitized by a raging fire.

Steichen may have no control because those above him are either overruling him or are just apathetic.

I appreciated it when coaches weren't afraid and were allowed to criticize players for lack of effort, poor attitude, or just be dumb as rocks!

[Racehorse]

Originally Posted by apballin

So what are you guys implying here?

The team is not letting him play?

Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin

None of that. The dude has an injury preventing him from being effective.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by apballin

So what are you guys implying here?

The team is not letting him play?

Bull fuckin shit… if he wanted to play he would’ve been out there. If they’re babying him to this degree it’s no wander this team is soft as Charmin

I am implying that he wasn't healthy enough to play. that if he was healthy enough to play, he would have.

you are implying that he just didn't want to play. which is very unlikely