L'Jarius Sneed

[ChaosTheory]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I understand the frustration, but there are a lot of factors that we don't and won't ever know. Yes, the Titans got him for a 3 next year, but the Chiefs may be thinking that it's very likely that the Titans will have a high pick next year. They may have wanted a 2025 2 from the Colts, since it's much more likely that the Colts will have a much lower pick than the Titans in 2025. Then there's the issues with Sneed. First, we have no idea what the medicals on his knee are, but apparently they were concerning for several NFL teams. Many of the same people who are complaining that Ballard didn't pull the trigger on this now are the same people who would say "Ballard got fleeced by the Chiefs" if he gave up next year's 2 and Sneed suffered a season ending knee injury in camp or at the beginning of the season. Finally, the Colts have a very unique disadvantage in the NFL, as they are the only team in a division where all of their division rivals don't have a state income tax, but they do. Which leads me to the other Sneed issue, contract compensation. We'll never know if the Colts were actually in on Sneed or not, but there were rumors at one point that he wanted 22m AAV, and he ended up signing for 19m AAV. Yes, those rumors could be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if Sneed would want more from the Colts than he would from the Titans to compensate for the tax difference.

I read 4-years/$76m with $55m of it guaranteed. That's a shitload guaranteed with an injury concern.

[Hoopsdoc]

Yeah, I’m off the Sneed bandwagon. He was the most penalized cornerback in the league in 2023. He’s also 27 and coming off a serious knee injury. He’s never made a pro bowl or an all pro.

He’s a much more expensive Rock Ya-Sin.

I’ll pass on that much money for that player.

Also, what in the hell are the Titans doing? If Levis is really good their moves may make sense but nobody knows how good he is yet.

Seems like they’re putting an awful lot of eggs in that basket.

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Yeah, I’m off the Sneed bandwagon. He was the most penalized cornerback in the league in 2023. He’s also 27 and coming off a serious knee injury. He’s never made a pro bowl or an all pro.

He’s a much more expensive Rock Ya-Sin.

I’ll pass on that much money for that player.

Also, what in the hell are the Titans doing? If Levis is really good their moves may make sense but nobody knows how good he is yet.

Seems like they’re putting an awful lot of eggs in that basket.

I characterize it as- playing as if every year offers a chance. Injuries to opponents, lack of chemistry, etc... this is the NFL, you just never know- and the Colts of 23-24 are a prime example with the loss of AR but right there until the very final play of their season with a career backup.

To me, that's the difference betwen a good GM and a bum, not planning 27 fucking years downstream, instead putting all the eggs in a basket looking to win each year. Ballard's still strategizing for 2027 being "the year" --- his strategy fucking doesn't work, the proof is in the results. 1 PO win in 8 years, no division titles.... he fucking sucks.

[Dewey 5]

We could have had Sneed but dipshit Ballard drafted the legendary QB Jacob Eason instead.

[ukcolt]

So the following 2023 Titans have already signed with other teams:
RB - Derrick Henry - we all know how good he is
DT - Denico Autry - 11.5 sacks last year
LB - Azeez Al-Shaair - starting LB with 141 tackles
CB - Sean Murphy-Bunting - started 10 games last year
C - Aaron Brewer Started every game last 2 years.
T - Andre Dillard - Started 10 games last year.
WR - Chris Moore - 5 game starter with over 400 yards receiving.
CB - Kristian Fulton - Started all games played over past 3 years (35)


They then have the following guys who are free agents:
QB - Ryan Tannehill - again we know all about him.
S - Terrell Edmunds - Their 3 safety.
T - Chris Hubbard - started all 9 games until injury last year.
TE - Trevon Wesco - started 10 games as the No. 2 TE.
DL - Kyle Peko - started 10 games
DL - Marlon Davidson - started 3 games.



They have signed:
RB - Tony Pollard - a rotational back, nowhere near the level of Henry
WR - Calvin Ridley - will help the offense
C - Lloyd Cushenberry - big money signee from Broncos, who has started every game he has played in.
LB - Kenneth Murray - Chargers declined his 5th year option, a decent player, but nothing special.
QB - Mason Rudolph - who cares?
OL - Saahdiq Charles - Considered a bust in Washington.
NT - Sebastian Joseph - cut by the Chargers towards end of last year.
CB - Chidobe Awuzie - A decent player, but lost his starting role to a rookie last year.
CB - L'Jarius Sneed - a very good CB


Do we really think that the Titans are better after free agency????

[Dewey 5]

Originally Posted by ukcolt

So the following 2023 Titans have already signed with other teams:
RB - Derrick Henry - we all know how good he is
DT - Denico Autry - 11.5 sacks last year
LB - Azeez Al-Shaair - starting LB with 141 tackles
CB - Sean Murphy-Bunting - started 10 games last year
C - Aaron Brewer Started every game last 2 years.
T - Andre Dillard - Started 10 games last year.
WR - Chris Moore - 5 game starter with over 400 yards receiving.
CB - Kristian Fulton - Started all games played over past 3 years (35)


They then have the following guys who are free agents:
QB - Ryan Tannehill - again we know all about him.
S - Terrell Edmunds - Their 3 safety.
T - Chris Hubbard - started all 9 games until injury last year.
TE - Trevon Wesco - started 10 games as the No. 2 TE.
DL - Kyle Peko - started 10 games
DL - Marlon Davidson - started 3 games.



They have signed:
RB - Tony Pollard - a rotational back, nowhere near the level of Henry
WR - Calvin Ridley - will help the offense
C - Lloyd Cushenberry - big money signee from Broncos, who has started every game he has played in.
LB - Kenneth Murray - Chargers declined his 5th year option, a decent player, but nothing special.
QB - Mason Rudolph - who cares?
OL - Saahdiq Charles - Considered a bust in Washington.
NT - Sebastian Joseph - cut by the Chargers towards end of last year.
CB - Chidobe Awuzie - A decent player, but lost his starting role to a rookie last year.
CB - L'Jarius Sneed - a very good CB


Do we really think that the Titans are better after free agency????

Who cares? The point is that we're not.

[ukcolt]

Because people are trying to make the point that the rest of the teams in the AFC south are suddenly so much better than the Colts. Which I just disagree with on so many levels.

The Colts philosophy has always been the draft, so our natural improvement is through the development of our own players and them improving year on year. So next year the young guys who saw playing time will be improved etc.

Can you say we have got worse? If not and our roster has remained much the same, come next year we are likely to be better.

Other teams have a similar philosophy and their rosters will of course develop as well. But the Colts are consistently one of the better teams in terms of the draft.

We also manage our cap really well, so that we don't lose players year after year that we might want to keep.

What we have missed for quite a few years is elite QB play. Which hopefully we have now secured, but that is still to be proven.

In my opinion, and i know not everyone agrees with this, is that this is probably one of the best rosters i can recall the Colts having from top to bottom. The fact that we were able to be competitive in almost every game is testament to that, along with quality coaching. But coaches are meant to be getting the maximum out of players, and then making the right calls in the crucial moments of games.

[ukcolt]

I also wonder if i am actually in the minority with my opinion that the roster is good. Or if it just the whiney bitchy community who complain when the sun rises in the east each day, and that they just shout the loudest.

[Thorgrim]

I think this cements a corner (Mitchell/Arnold) in round one now. I’m fine with that but am still a bit miffed that we haven’t brought in some more outside talent to start, provide depth, or provide a solid veteran presence. I wonder if one of Simmons, Blackmon, Clowney, or Gilmore is still within the budget.

[apballin]

Originally Posted by Thorgrim

I think this cements a corner (Mitchell/Arnold) in round one now. I’m fine with that but am still a bit miffed that we haven’t brought in some more outside talent to start, provide depth, or provide a solid veteran presence. I wonder if one of Simmons, Blackmon, Clowney, or Gilmore is still within the budget.

I was thinking the same thing until Mitchell’s pro day and he said he’s not met with the Colts, almost makes you wonder if they might go Chop Robinson or Latu