Should be FIRED??

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by ColtBlue

Fire both Frank and Ballard?

Give Ballard another year with new coach?

Don't fire either one lets keep being a bad team?

Irsay only hires Nice guys...we need a coach that is a real son-of-a-bitch!

[ColtBlue]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Irsay only hires Nice guys...we need a coach that is a real son-of-a-bitch!

I agree 100%

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Irsay only hires Nice guys...we need a coach that is a real son-of-a-bitch!

Tony Dungy, Pete Carroll, Mike Tomlin, Andy Reid,….. you dont need a sob to get positive results.

What ever profession, you get better results raising people up, not beating them down.

[MeSayDayo]

Isn't John Fox in the house still?

He has interim coach written all over him.

[Brylok]

Originally Posted by MeSayDayo

Isn't John Fox in the house still?

He has interim coach written all over him.

Holy crap, NO!

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by JAFF

Tony Dungy, Pete Carroll, Mike Tomlin, Andy Reid,….. you dont need a sob to get positive results.

What ever profession, you get better results raising people up, not beating them down.

I can name a bunch of successful SOBs if you want me to!

Just because you are an SOB doesn't necessarily mean you tear people down, it means you hold people accountable and believe in discipline and personal responsibility!

[JAFF]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

I can name a bunch of successful SOBs if you want me to!

Just because you are an SOB doesn't necessarily mean you tear people down, it means you hold people accountable and believe in discipline and personal responsibility!

I have never met a SOB who had good people skills. You can hold people accountable, without being being an a hole/ dick/ SOB, and it takes less energy on your part to get people to by in.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by JAFF

I have never met a SOB who had good people skills. You can hold people accountable, without being being an a hole/ dick/ SOB, and it takes less energy on your part to get people to by in.

Well, just about anybody that actually holds people accountable and demands discipline is called an SOB, especially by the people who enjoy playing the victim instead of taking personal responsibility for their actions.

[rcubed]

Originally Posted by CletusPyle

Well, just about anybody that actually holds people accountable and demands discipline is called an SOB, especially by the people who enjoy playing the victim instead of taking personal responsibility for their actions.

I guess. but holding people accountable and being an asshole are different things.

[CletusPyle]

I guess it all comes down to how you define SOB, when I say SOB I'm not thinking an asshole that treats people like shit, I am just thinking of a tough guy that doesn't take shit, and is very demanding of those that work for him. They guy might be a little arrogant and maybe not always politically correct, he might be confrontational at times, but rewards good play when warranted. Guys like that are going to be loved by some and hated by others, but they often get a lot accomplished.

Irsay always seems to hire the nice guys, Pagano, Caldwell, Reich...I agree Dungy is a good coach and a nice guy, so 1 out of 4 turned out to be a good hire! I just think we need to try someone with a little more of an edge and someone that will toughen this team up a little...I don't want dirty play, but I would like to see more aggression and attitude! Just my opinion of course....