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That $15 million is guaranteed money that the Colts agreed to by having him on the roster on the third day of the league year last year. If he is on the roster on the third day of the league year this year, the remainder of his current year salary becomes guaranteed.

The problem I have with cutting or trading Wentz is what exactly are you going to find with the $13 million of freed up money plus the cap space available that is going to be better than Wentz? Have the Colts suddenly gained a great deal of faith in Jameis Winston or Teddy Bridgewater, both of whom they recently had chances to sign a their starting QB and chose not to? Are they going to go full Rams for Russell Wilson, who himself is coming off a career worst year? The Packers will want too much for Rodgers, the Texans will not trade Watson here. If you get rid of Wentz, what's the play?
Therein is the rub. What are the alternatives? I would guess they feel they need to move on from the guy before his stench permeates the locker room, but what are the options as a replacement? Sam is likely not ready, and may never be. I read Love might be traded, but is he an upgrade? Doubtful. Jimmy G? Maybe, but not likely to be that much better. The top three names (Rodgers, Wilson, Watson) are very remote dreams. Other FA guys are about the same. The draft shows no real promise. Maybe they go after a FA guy for a couple of years, and hope to catch fire with the surrounding cast. All I know is that Wentz will likely be gone, and that is probably a good thing.
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Therein is the rub. What are the alternatives? I would guess they feel they need to move on from the guy before his stench permeates the locker room, but what are the options as a replacement? Sam is likely not ready, and may never be. I read Love might be traded, but is he an upgrade? Doubtful. Jimmy G? Maybe, but not likely to be that much better. The top three names (Rodgers, Wilson, Watson) are very remote dreams. Other FA guys are about the same. The draft shows no real promise. Maybe they go after a FA guy for a couple of years, and hope to catch fire with the surrounding cast. All I know is that Wentz will likely be gone, and that is probably a good thing.
Have to wait to see how the dominoes fall. Rodgers just ended his engagement. Maybe he is ready for something new. Options available seem to be:
1. Keep Wentz, hope he improves. But likely get same results.
2. Trade Wentz. Try to get a upgrade veteran. Lose lots of draft capital.
3. Trade Wentz, roll with a rookie or Sam. Maybe hope for a high draft pick next year.
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Have to wait to see how the dominoes fall. Rodgers just ended his engagement. Maybe he is ready for something new. Options available seem to be:
1. Keep Wentz, hope he improves. But likely get same results.
2. Trade Wentz. Try to get a upgrade veteran. Lose lots of draft capital.
3. Trade Wentz, roll with a rookie or Sam. Maybe hope for a high draft pick next year.
I think Rodgers stays in GB or retires. I don't think Wilson will be traded, and if he is, we do not have the ammo to be in the mix. Maybe Bridgewater or Winston can be signed and work out. I am not convinced on either being successful. Maybe Sam is ready next year, but I doubt it. No good players in the draft available. That leaves a free agent, or Wentz. See my post above for my thoughts on him.
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The consensus on Wentz, after the trade, was that he had gotten mucked up in Philadelphia, and all he needed to excel was a return to the arms of a Quarterback whisperer like Frank Reich.

Well, he might have come to the Colts; but, for all practical purposes, Reich never got the opportunity to take apart his game, his mechanics, fix them, and put the pieces back together.

First, Covid wiped out offseason workouts, then the foot ended Wentz’s preseason.

Give Reich another shot at it. If it works out, great. But, if his critics are right and Wentz is unsalvageable, you have a first round draft choice in a better class of QB’s or you can pick up a free agent from a deeper pool.
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The consensus on Wentz, after the trade, was that he had gotten mucked up in Philadelphia, and all he needed to excel was a return to the arms of a Quarterback whisperer like Frank Reich.

Well, he might have come to the Colts; but, for all practical purposes, Reich never got the opportunity to take apart his game, his mechanics, fix them, and put the pieces back together.

First, Covid wiped out offseason workouts, then the foot ended Wentz’s preseason.

Give Reich another shot at it. If it works out, great. But, if his critics are right and Wentz is unsalvageable, you have a first round draft choice in a better class of QB’s or you can pick up a free agent from a deeper pool.
See drafting a QB is not the answer to me this team is full of guys heading into their prime it’s built to win right now we don’t have time to let a rookie come in and develop
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I think Rodgers stays in GB or retires. I don't think Wilson will be traded, and if he is, we do not have the ammo to be in the mix. Maybe Bridgewater or Winston can be signed and work out. I am not convinced on either being successful. Maybe Sam is ready next year, but I doubt it. No good players in the draft available. That leaves a free agent, or Wentz. See my post above for my thoughts on him.
We have the capital if we want to use it. You just throw future firsts and other picks to compensate.
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I may be alone but I don't believe we have the capital to go after a top QB if they become available. Not with the number of teams needing a QB and us not having a number one this year. You are going to need at least two number ones and even if it was accepted it would give us three years in a row without a number one. Think Ballard will be in for that? We are not one QB away from the Super Bowl anyway. Our situation sucks big time. Missing on Wentz has put us in a world of hurt. I don't see any answer right now but don't want us pulling off some bullshit panic move that sets us back even further. We need calm heads, especially right now.
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We have the capital if we want to use it. You just throw future firsts and other picks to compensate.
This year's first is worth a whole lot more than future picks.
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