Official Colts throttle the Jests and I hate late games thread

[Puck]

Originally Posted by HoosierinFL

If that's true...

It is.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2021/...titans-week-8/


And while I agree that Reich has to take the blame for not telling Wentz to just run the damn play. The fault of the lack of running the ball is Wentz trying to be a hero.

[albany ed]

Originally Posted by Puck

It is.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2021/...titans-week-8/


And while I agree that Reich has to take the blame for not telling Wentz to just run the damn play. The fault of the lack of running the ball is Wentz trying to be a hero.

Thanks for the info Puck. If Wentz checked out because he wants to be a hero, then Reich needs to get all over his ass. If he checked out because the D was keyed up to stop the run, then OK. That's why it would be interesting to know what happened on the check outs. Were they successful? Were they failures? Half and half? Who knows?

[ChoppedWood]

Originally Posted by albany ed

Thanks for the info Puck. If Wentz checked out because he wants to be a hero, then Reich needs to get all over his ass. If he checked out because the D was keyed up to stop the run, then OK. That's why it would be interesting to know what happened on the check outs. Were they successful? Were they failures? Half and half? Who knows?

Reich seems to be okay with it (obviously we have no concept of the truth behind the curtain), and if so, more confirmation that the dude is an idiot.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Puck

It is.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2021/...titans-week-8/


And while I agree that Reich has to take the blame for not telling Wentz to just run the damn play. The fault of the lack of running the ball is Wentz trying to be a hero.

Those were the RPO’s Reich alluded to after the game. It’s not a situation where Wentz audibled from a run to a pass, they were read and react plays that just happened to favor throwing the ball.

[rm1369]

Originally Posted by Puck

It is.

https://coltswire.usatoday.com/2021/...titans-week-8/


And while I agree that Reich has to take the blame for not telling Wentz to just run the damn play. The fault of the lack of running the ball is Wentz trying to be a hero.

I’ve said I don’t think Wentz is a winner, so I’m not exactly one to defend him. However, without context of what plays he checked out of and the defensive alignment I don’t think we can say it was him playing hero ball. Identifying the defense and getting into a favorable play is good QB play. But we don’t know which it was without more information.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by rm1369

I’ve said I don’t think Wentz is a winner, so I’m not exactly one to defend him. However, without context of what plays he checked out of and the defensive alignment I don’t think we can say it was him playing hero ball. Identifying the defense and getting into a favorable play is good QB play. But we don’t know which it was without more information.

To be honest, last week soured me considerably on Wentz. Those ints were not winning plays and I wonder if the folks in Philly weren’t right about him.

Maybe he just doesn’t have what it takes.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

To be honest, last week soured me considerably on Wentz. Those ints were not winning plays and I wonder if the folks in Philly weren’t right about him.

Maybe he just doesn’t have what it takes.

I’m going to wait till the end of the season. He’s had some good games and all QBs make mistakes. Really, his play should already have lead to more wins, but a multitude of bad luck and mistakes in other areas have brought us to where we are.

[CletusPyle]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I’m going to wait till the end of the season. He’s had some good games and all QBs make mistakes. Really, his play should already have lead to more wins, but a multitude of bad luck and mistakes in other areas have brought us to where we are.

This is how I feel....besides, just drafting the highest prospect QB available in the draft is no guarantee he is not going to be a bust!

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I’m going to wait till the end of the season. He’s had some good games and all QBs make mistakes. Really, his play should already have lead to more wins, but a multitude of bad luck and mistakes in other areas have brought us to where we are.

Someone said that int to end the game was the worst read they’ve ever seen an NFL quarterback make and I don’t disagree. That was horrific.

Still, you’re probably right. He just hasn’t shown me he can be more than just a talented guy who will always be not quite good enough.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Someone said that int to end the game was the worst read they’ve ever seen an NFL quarterback make and I don’t disagree. That was horrific.

Still, you’re probably right. He just hasn’t shown me he can be more than just a talented guy who will always be not quite good enough.

I won’t disagree that it was bad, it was, but I’ve seen Peyton and Luck make bad reads too. My biggest worry is that he presses too much, gets tunnel vision in high pressure situations and when forced makes errors.

However with everyone concentrating on his errors bc of last season, I feel we are waiting for them to happen then over analyze. He think he is still over 100 QBR. I want to see the whole picture. I don’t need him to be a franchise QB, just a good one. Throwing 51 times is not his game and shouldn’t be ours.