quick thoughts on the stupid dolphins

[nate505]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

you don't bench a player to help your position. what kind of person are you? i always knew colts fans were racist and generally bad people but jesus. ethics, morals and integrity are missing from indiana i see

I'm not even from Indiana so as usual your bashing is a swing and a miss. And you absolutely do bench a player to help your position unless you're a total fucking moron.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by nate505

I'm not even from Indiana so as usual your bashing is a swing and a miss. And you absolutely do bench a player to help your position unless you're a total fucking moron.

other states make people that are pieces of shit as well.


and no you fucking don't bench the player just for the draft pick. this may be a surprise to you, but a lot of people aren't pieces of shit. you make a deal, you honor the deal.

it really shouldn't even be a discussion in the front office and i'm sure it isn't

[nate505]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

other states make people that are pieces of shit as well.


and no you fucking don't bench the player just for the draft pick. this may be a surprise to you, but a lot of people aren't pieces of shit. you make a deal, you honor the deal.

it really shouldn't even be a discussion in the front office and i'm sure it isn't

You mean other states, where even in the states with the least population have hundreds of thousands of people, have people who suck in them? Brilliant fucking revelation there.

How exactly isn't that honoring the deal? The deal doesn't state that Wentz had to be healthy. I imagine it is being discussed in the front office as a potential move because I imagine the front office isn't that dumb.

[Luck4Reich]

Originally Posted by nate505

How exactly isn't that honoring the deal? The deal doesn't state that Wentz had to be healthy. I imagine it is being discussed in the front office as a potential move because I imagine the front office isn't that dumb.

But Wentz is Healthy. So why sit him? Because his ankles? Most players play through an injury. So we should sit Leonard too then. Let's sit a lot of other players too since they are dealing with injury.

Ballard made the decision to give up a first round pick.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich

But Wentz is Healthy. So why sit him? Because his ankles? Most players play through an injury. So we should sit Leonard too then. Let's sit a lot of other players too since they are dealing with injury.

Ballard made the decision to give up a first round pick.

Wentz is far from healthy. And there wouldn’t be anything wrong with sitting him with an eye toward keeping the pick, as long as he was ok with it.

If Philly didn’t want to risk not getting the 1st rounder, they shouldn’t have made the deal. There’s nothing unethical about it.

Do you expect players to fulfill the contract they signed no matter what? How is that different?

[nate505]

Originally Posted by Luck4Reich

But Wentz is Healthy. So why sit him? Because his ankles? Most players play through an injury. So we should sit Leonard too then. Let's sit a lot of other players too since they are dealing with injury.

Ballard made the decision to give up a first round pick.

No he didn't. He made the decision to give up a first round pick if Wentz plays 75% of his snaps, or 70% if the Colts make the playoffs.

So let's say by the 14th game Wentz needs to sit out the next four to get the Colts under that 75% mark, and the Colts have a horrible record like 3-10 or something and are well out of the playoff race.

What exactly is the benefit of playing him? At that point the negatives are plenty. Wentz could hurt himself the next four games in games that are meaningless for the Colts and the Colts would lose a potential top 5 or whatever pick all because...they want to follow some unwritten rules of a deal? Imagine the shitstorm that would follow if Wentz played in this scenario to the point where the Colts lost their first round pick, then he has like an ACL tear or some real significant injury. At that point the Colts wouldn't even have a high pick to fall back on.

If the deal was that Wentz was expected to play for anything other than injuries, they could have mandated that healthy scratches don't count for the snap count in the deal. Then if the Colts claimed he had a sore ankle or whatever to get him on the injury report one could make the claim the Colts were being unethical. In this case, the deal is pretty simple. He either plays 70/75% of his snaps or he doesn't.

If Ballard really wanted to trade a first round pick for the guy, he would have. These conditions are here for a reason. Either for injury, he sucks so bad that they'd rather play the backup, or the Colts suck so bad with him that they don't want to give up a first round pick.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by nate505

You mean other states, where even in the states with the least population have hundreds of thousands of people, have people who suck in them? Brilliant fucking revelation there.

How exactly isn't that honoring the deal? The deal doesn't state that Wentz had to be healthy. I imagine it is being discussed in the front office as a potential move because I imagine the front office isn't that dumb.

that is because you are a shitty person apparently. if you have no integrity, your opinion is irrelevant to any debate or conversation.

[nate505]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

that is because you are a shitty person apparently. if you have no integrity, your opinion is irrelevant to any debate or conversation.

So the fact that the front office could potentially follow the deal to the letter of the deal is something that lacks integrity.

I mean sure, if you don't know the definition of the word.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by omahacolt

that is because you are a shitty person apparently. if you have no integrity, your opinion is irrelevant to any debate or conversation.

You keep saying it’s shitty but give no reason why. It’s almost like you’re full of shit.

If Philly wanted a 1st round pick, they should have held out for a first round pick with no strings attached.

If a situation arises where the Colts are clearly out of contention and Wentz is still playing hurt, they’d be fools NOT to bench him. They’d be hurting themselves for no reason.

[omahacolt]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

You keep saying it’s shitty but give no reason why. It’s almost like you’re full of shit.

If Philly wanted a 1st round pick, they should have held out for a first round pick with no strings attached.

If a situation arises where the Colts are clearly out of contention and Wentz is still playing hurt, they’d be fools NOT to bench him. They’d be hurting themselves for no reason.

if wentz can't play then you sit him. if he can play, then you play him. it is that simple. let the chips fall where they may.

i say shitty and explain it pretty clearly. if you lack morals, integrity and ethics then you are a shitty person. do you not understand integrity? nate doesn't.