Colts Acquire DT DeForest Buckner

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Lol, some of the are S-A-L-T-Y. I don’t blame them.

You just don’t trade guys like Buckner. You find a way to keep them.

Never understood why they signed Armstead and not Buckner.

[JAFF]

I hope he is pissed off until the colts win the super bowl

[Colts And Orioles]

Originally Posted by nate505

I know that I shouldn't give a fuck about Pro Bowl selections ...... but how the fuck did Buckner not make it ???

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Small-market bullshit, as usual. The guy was robbed.

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in 8 seasons between 2012 and 2019, Russell Wilson has never received a single vote for MVP ...... not one single vote.



Russell Wilson Reacts to the Fact that He's Never Received a Single MVP Vote in his 8-Year Career

(By John Breech)

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...t-year-career/

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[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles

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in 8 seasons between 2012 and 2019, Russell Wilson has never received a single vote for MVP ...... not one single vote.



Russell Wilson Reacts to the Fact that He's Never Received a Single MVP Vote in his 8-Year Career

(By John Breech)

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...t-year-career/

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West coast bias. They play too late for the east coast to watch games. It’s apparent in college sports too.

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Never understood why they signed Armstead and not Buckner.

I can actually see the logic in it from a pure money ball perspective. They needed space to resign Kittle, Warner, etc and were up against the cap. Buckner wanted at least 20 million per. Armstead was a little cheaper and they talked themselves into the notion that they could make up that difference with their stacked d line.

What they didn’t calculate was the type of player Defo is. You don’t replace incredibly durable, all pro, defensive captains like him, especially when he’s only 25.

The fact that a guy like Ballard jumped on that deal should have clued them in that it was a bad one.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

I can actually see the logic in it from a pure money ball perspective. They needed space to resign Kittle, Warner, etc and were up against the cap. Buckner wanted at least 20 million per. Armstead was a little cheaper and they talked themselves into the notion that they could make up that difference with their stacked d line.

What they didn’t calculate was the type of player Defo is. You don’t replace incredibly durable, all pro, defensive captains like him, especially when he’s only 25.

The fact that a guy like Ballard jumped on that deal should have clued them in that it was a bad one.

Armstead is two years older too. Kim law looks like he is going to be pretty good though. But like most dline, might take a couple years.

I’m thinking scenarios. They were losing one of them. I wonder if they offered Armstead and we said no. So the 49ers thought we can keep Buckner, or we can keep Armstead and the 13 pick.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Armstead is two years older too. Kim law looks like he is going to be pretty good though. But like most dline, might take a couple years.

I’m thinking scenarios. They were losing one of them. I wonder if they offered Armstead and we said no. So the 49ers thought we can keep Buckner, or we can keep Armstead and the 13 pick.

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking. That's smart team building. Getting that pick allowed them to essentially draft his replacement in Kinlaw (who the Colts probably would've taken at 13 had they retained the pick) and still keep most of their group together, including the most talented of the bunch in Bosa. The Colts ended up with a great deal out of this, but I don't think the 49ers "lost" this trade. They got what they needed out of it.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

I'm sure that's exactly what they were thinking. That's smart team building. Getting that pick allowed them to essentially draft his replacement in Kinlaw (who the Colts probably would've taken at 13 had they retained the pick) and still keep most of their group together, including the most talented of the bunch in Bosa. The Colts ended up with a great deal out of this, but I don't think the 49ers "lost" this trade. They got what they needed out of it.

I think that anytime you are trading proven vs unproven the risk is too high to take.

[Dam8610]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

I think that anytime you are trading proven vs unproven the risk is too high to take.

In a situation with unlimited cap space, absolutely. The cap forces teams to take calculated risks that they otherwise wouldn't have to take. For example, can Javon Kinlaw provide 70-80% of DeForest Buckner's production at 15-20% of the cap hit?

[Hoopsdoc]

Originally Posted by Dam8610

In a situation with unlimited cap space, absolutely. The cap forces teams to take calculated risks that they otherwise wouldn't have to take. For example, can Javon Kinlaw provide 70-80% of DeForest Buckner's production at 15-20% of the cap hit?

People matter though. There’s more to consider than just the production. Especially with a guy like Buckner, who is a cornerstone guy that they haven’t been able to replace.