Preseason Week One quick thoughts

[YDFL Commish]

No way is Rogers entrenched as the slot receiver or a lock to make the roster.

Ideally Campbell is the slot WR. Let's not forget that TY can be pretty proficient in the slot as well. Reich will employ multiple personnel groupings based on the opponent. I could easily see a grouping with TY in the slot and Funchess and Cain or Fountain on the outside. Hines will also get some work in the slot.

Rogers best chance of making the team, is the same as it's always been...beat out all other contenders for KR, PR or both.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

No way is Rogers entrenched as the slot receiver or a lock to make the roster.

Ideally Campbell is the slot WR. Let's not forget that TY can be pretty proficient in the slot as well. Reich will employ multiple personnel groupings based on the opponent. I could easily see a grouping with TY in the slot and Funchess and Cain or Fountain on the outside. Hines will also get some work in the slot.

Rogers best chance of making the team, is the same as it's always been...beat out all other contenders for KR, PR or both.

Based on what? Everything I've read or heard said Rogers is the starter and is making the roster. Cambell is hurt and isn't even practicing, he isn't unseating him anytime soon.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Based on what? Everything I've read or heard said Rogers is the starter and is making the roster. Cambell is hurt and isn't even practicing, he isn't unseating him anytime soon.

You go ahead and pin your hopes on Rogers, who has zero upside. I'll pin mine elsewhere.

[Colt Classic]

I'm over Rogers and Philly Walker. The Colts know what they have in both of them, and it isn't enough to keep either of them over other options.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

You go ahead and pin your hopes on Rogers, who has zero upside. I'll pin mine elsewhere.

I’m not pinning my hopes on Rogers, I’m not even a fan of the guy. I’m reading the daily reports by Holder, Bowen, and Chappel and going off what they are saying. I am wondering what you are basing your opinion on? If that is just what you believe that is fine, I'm just basing mine on the info they are providing.

1. The guy is healthy and consistently makes catches, in practice at least.
2. The guy can play the slot and outside. None of the other guys in contention can do that, they are all outside receivers.
3. He is the only one who seems to be able to catch on special teams despite trying everyone from Hines to Pascal to Cambell out there.
4. The coaches all speak glowingly of him.

Do I think Cain and Fountain offer more upside, sure. I just don't think they are showing it enough to supplant him.

[YDFL Commish]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

I’m not pinning my hopes on Rogers, I’m not even a fan of the guy. I’m reading the daily reports by Holder, Bowen, and Chappel and going off what they are saying. I am wondering what you are basing your opinion on? If that is just what you believe that is fine, I'm just basing mine on the info they are providing.

1. The guy is healthy and consistently makes catches, in practice at least.
2. The guy can play the slot and outside. None of the other guys in contention can do that, they are all outside receivers.
3. He is the only one who seems to be able to catch on special teams despite trying everyone from Hines to Pascal to Cambell out there.
4. The coaches all speak glowingly of him.

Do I think Cain and Fountain offer more upside, sure. I just don't think they are showing it enough to supplant him.

The reports that I'm seeing is Cain and Fountain have been having great performances at TC.

Like I said, I have no problem with Rogers making the team, but at the end of the day he will earn it through his special teams play...not what he does at WR.

[Chromeburn]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

The reports that I'm seeing is Cain and Fountain have been having great performances at TC.

Like I said, I have no problem with Rogers making the team, but at the end of the day he will earn it through his special teams play...not what he does at WR.

Rookies and guys that are breaking out always seem to dominate camp news. People like to hear about that stuff. Especially when those two guys did nothing the previous year. We haven't heard much about Houston, but what I have read is that the guy is a badass and he will be a good addition. Do I think Turay and Banagu will move in front of him because I have heard more about them, no. Just like Sin isn't supplanting Desir or Moore anytime soon.

The coaches dont stick him there on the depth chart for shits and giggles, he has had a good camp and has been very consistent. Which is what they keep saying Fountain and Cain need to do. The special teams just cements his addition.

[GoBigBlue88]

Originally Posted by Chromeburn

Rookies and guys that are breaking out always seem to dominate camp news. People like to hear about that stuff. Especially when those two guys did nothing the previous year. We haven't heard much about Houston, but what I have read is that the guy is a badass and he will be a good addition. Do I think Turay and Banagu will move in front of him because I have heard more about them, no. Just like Sin isn't supplanting Desir or Moore anytime soon.

The coaches dont stick him there on the depth chart for shits and giggles, he has had a good camp and has been very consistent. Which is what they keep saying Fountain and Cain need to do. The special teams just cements his addition.

I mean, that and the fact Rogers is a proven ~500 yard receiving guy against real NFL competition. That still matters.

Look, gun to head, I probably keep: Hilton, Funchess, Campbell (if not PUP'd?), Fountain, Cain, Pascal. Just because I believe the ST value of a Pascal > the ST value of a Hairston, for instance.

But it's a total crapshoot.

[Pez]

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish

No way is Rogers entrenched as the slot receiver or a lock to make the roster.

Ideally Campbell is the slot WR. Let's not forget that TY can be pretty proficient in the slot as well. Reich will employ multiple personnel groupings based on the opponent. I could easily see a grouping with TY in the slot and Funchess and Cain or Fountain on the outside. Hines will also get some work in the slot.

Rogers best chance of making the team, is the same as it's always been...beat out all other contenders for KR, PR or both.

I find this odd too, he had 53 catches for almost 500 yards last year and averaged 9.2 YPR. I'm certainly no expert but aside from his ridiculous 2004 season, those numbers are not far off from a typical season from Brandon Stokely, perhaps the best slot receiver of the Manning era.

[Oldcolt]

l think that who makes the team will be telling. If we keep both Cain and Fountain (something that if they both continue to improve I am hoping we do) it tells me that we are 'shooting for the moon' athletically. At this point in this team development I think that is appropriate. Why 'waste' picks on developmental types if you are not going to keep them if they start to develop? In todays game we don't need 1967 Travis Williams (yes I saw him) returning kick offs, they are not really a big part of the game now. Punts are another issue and that can be a huge one. That is my one caveat, we need someone who has sure hands back there on punts. Not sure if any of these new guys are capable.

We used a second round draft pick on Campbell. I am assuming that the plan was for him to be in the slot. Tells me they were not thrilled with Rogers as the long term answer there. I'm not sure that anything, besides the first three receivers is set in stone