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Old 01-15-2019, 01:17 PM
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I think nearly everyone would take a 2nd for Brissett, but what if a team is only looking to move down (i.e. the Colts wouldn't gain a pick). As an example, what about Brissett + #89 to Miami for #48? That would be roughly a late 2nd rounder in value for Brissett.
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I think nearly everyone would take a 2nd for Brissett, but what if a team is only looking to move down (i.e. the Colts wouldn't gain a pick). As an example, what about Brissett + #89 to Miami for #48? That would be roughly a late 2nd rounder in value for Brissett.
Depends what your draft board looks like and where you see deep drop offs in talent. But I’d say the answer is very likely yes.

I love having the security of believing Brissett could win a game or two in Luck’s absence. But the reality is you can find backups on the market that provide an equivalent level of short term security. Brissett’s real value is in his age and upside, which really mean very little for the Colts long term. And in some ways is actually a detriment, as you’d prefer an experienced hand and one that isn’t going to (rightly) leave for his (deserved) shot. It sucks, but the best thing for the Colts (and possibly Brissett) is a trade this offseason.

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Brissett is a serviceable back up that can come in for 2-3 games in a pinch and win 1-2.

I don't think he is any better or worse than most back ups in the league.

I do think with Reich he could make him a decent QB, play to his strengths Also with a better run game as we saw this year for the team, it would be easier on him

But I would take a second round pick for him if offered, just not sure you would get that. You can draft or find a back up somewhere to replace him with a lower round pick or in FA
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Brissett is a serviceable back up that can come in for 2-3 games in a pinch and win 1-2.

I don't think he is any better or worse than most back ups in the league.

I do think with Reich he could make him a decent QB, play to his strengths Also with a better run game as we saw this year for the team, it would be easier on him

But I would take a second round pick for him if offered, just not sure you would get that. You can draft or find a back up somewhere to replace him with a lower round pick or in FA
I think your perception is pretty off. Brissett isn't irreplaceable, but he's definitely on a higher level than Nathan Peterman, for example. There are some bad backup QBs that can't handle much real NFL playing time. With a good team and coaching staff around him I think Brissett can win.
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I think your perception is pretty off. Brissett isn't irreplaceable, but he's definitely on a higher level than Nathan Peterman, for example. There are some bad backup QBs that can't handle much real NFL playing time. With a good team and coaching staff around him I think Brissett can win.
I’d agree - but that’s why he’s more valuable as a trade commodity than as a backup QB. I don’t see the Colts being able to retain him long term. I’d guess he will want a shot as a full time starter and I think he’s shown enough to get one.
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Matt Miller posted a new mock today. I think the note at the end is particularly interesting as we think about the best combined approach between UFA and the draft.

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The Pick: N'Keal Harry, Wide Receiver, Arizona State

The Indianapolis Colts made a fantastic turnaround in 2018 en route to a playoff berth and Wild Card Round victory. They are close, but general manager Chris Ballard needs one more draft to get them into serious contention.

Ballard and his excellent team of scouts will be looking to improve the offense and could do so by adding a marquee target for Andrew Luck in the first round. N'Keal Harry has excellent size (6'4", 213 lbs) and has dominated after the catch at Arizona State.

The Colts do have needs on defense, especially a pass-rusher, but the free-agent class this year is rich at the edge. Paying for a pass rush and drafting wide receivers is the better move this offseason.
Harry has the type of size that I think Ballard wants (over a guy like Marquise Brown). Definitely someone to keep an eye on and see how he runs at the combine.
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He's right, there are many pass rushers in their contract year. But realistically how many will get to FA?
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Matt Miller posted a new mock today. I think the note at the end is particularly interesting as we think about the best combined approach between UFA and the draft.



Harry has the type of size that I think Ballard wants (over a guy like Marquise Brown). Definitely someone to keep an eye on and see how he runs at the combine.
Ballard talked about bolstering the lines quite a bit in his post presser. I have a hard time seeing him drafting a receiver 1st. Especially with all the line talent in this draft. I’ve seen quite a few mocks with a WR first. Just don’t see it happening.

I’ve seen Harry play a couple times. Makes great catches, but I worry about his ability to separate. I want to see his 40 and 3-come Times first. I seeso many of his catches contested and the pac-12 doesn’t have that great of corners.
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