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Old 01-14-2019, 02:33 PM
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goes against everything he has preached thus far. establish a culture, build core through draft, dont over spend on FAs, etc.

grigsons teams had early success and grigs went for a bunch of FAs and failed miserably. I dont see ballard doing that, but what the hell do I know...
Grigson primarily failed in the draft, along with being an overall douche. He didn’t have big hits in free agency, but he maintained flexibility and added some useable short term pieces. Good enough to get to an AFCCG. The issue was that there were never any youngsters contributing or taking the older free agents place. I don’t care what you add in free agency or how you build your team, when you have a three year run of: Werner, Trent Richardson, Dorsette from your first round picks the team is going to feel it. Free agency was not the reason Grigsons teams failed and Ballard certainly shouldn’t ignore it.

As far as Brown is concerned, I’d prefer him over Bell out of the two Steelers guys mainly because I see a massive hole at WR that I don’t see at RB. I wouldn’t be upset at giving a 2nd for him, but I also wouldn’t be jumping up and down at the chance to either.
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Old 01-14-2019, 04:35 PM
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Grigson primarily failed in the draft, along with being an overall douche. He didn’t have big hits in free agency, but he maintained flexibility and added some useable short term pieces. Good enough to get to an AFCCG. The issue was that there were never any youngsters contributing or taking the older free agents place. I don’t care what you add in free agency or how you build your team, when you have a three year run of: Werner, Trent Richardson, Dorsette from your first round picks the team is going to feel it. Free agency was not the reason Grigsons teams failed and Ballard certainly shouldn’t ignore it.

As far as Brown is concerned, I’d prefer him over Bell out of the two Steelers guys mainly because I see a massive hole at WR that I don’t see at RB. I wouldn’t be upset at giving a 2nd for him, but I also wouldn’t be jumping up and down at the chance to either.
you are correct, but I was not implying FAs were the sole or main reason grigson ultimately failed.
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Ballard is doing a great job, whatever he decides I'm fine with. Although I would like to see him go after 1 or 2 high profile free agents this offseason. Team can be built through the draft but the one year Colts won the SB, they picked up Booger McFarland in the offseason at a position of need.

Not sure if Brown's character / off-field issues are worth it, but that's why Ballard gets paid the $$$ to make those decisions.
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Ballard is doing a great job, whatever he decides I'm fine with. Although I would like to see him go after 1 or 2 high profile free agents this offseason. Team can be built through the draft but the one year Colts won the SB, they picked up Booger McFarland in the offseason at a position of need.

Not sure if Brown's character / off-field issues are worth it, but that's why Ballard gets paid the $$$ to make those decisions.
Pretty sure McFarland was on in season trade.
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Grigson primarily failed in the draft, along with being an overall douche. He didn’t have big hits in free agency, but he maintained flexibility and added some useable short term pieces. Good enough to get to an AFCCG. The issue was that there were never any youngsters contributing or taking the older free agents place. I don’t care what you add in free agency or how you build your team, when you have a three year run of: Werner, Trent Richardson, Dorsette from your first round picks the team is going to feel it. Free agency was not the reason Grigsons teams failed and Ballard certainly shouldn’t ignore it.

As far as Brown is concerned, I’d prefer him over Bell out of the two Steelers guys mainly because I see a massive hole at WR that I don’t see at RB. I wouldn’t be upset at giving a 2nd for him, but I also wouldn’t be jumping up and down at the chance to either.
Dorsett has done better in New England than here. Maybe Pagano screwed the kid up. Granted, he is not performing at first round level.
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Dorsett has done better in New England than here. Maybe Pagano screwed the kid up. Granted, he is not performing at first round level.
I think his 2nd season with the Colts is still his best year. Either way, him still being in the league 4 years later is about the best thing you can say for those 3 guys.
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I think his 2nd season with the Colts is still his best year. Either way, him still being in the league 4 years later is about the best thing you can say for those 3 guys.
Edeldick gets most of the looks. Gordon was getting the next batch. Now that Gordon is out, those looks are going to Hogan and Dorsett.
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