Luck news!
 

Ballard live in Facebook right now. They are stopping andrew throwing for now. Yikes! Will report back at end of his news conference.

Ok so the word is that he's shut down for the foreseeable future to deal with soreness and inflammation. He's getting cortisone shots and they are characterizing this as a natural part of the healing process. He claims that his throwing and velocity are good and the shoulder is structurally sound. They just want to get him to a point where the inflammation and swelling are gone. He wouldn't speculate on timeline other than to say he doesn't think it will be too long. On the question of will he be back this season.....expect so. He said the sky is not falling and repeated that long term andrew's future is bright

On the question of Geathers said working through the process to get him medically cleared and it will be soon.

On question of 4th quarter implosions, he shares their frustration. That was the last question and he left quickly.

http://www.colts.com/news/article-1/...a-a37da67b1dcd

That sucks. But I'm glad Ballard isn't letting Pagano rush Luck back.

Wild guess is we don't see Luck til after the bye, if at all this season.

He's not coming back this season. Just admit it already.

Shut it down.

I’m loving the possibility of what getting a top draft pick would mean for this franchise in terms of acquiring assets if we sold off a potentially extremely valuable pick.

I’ve been saying that since they acquired Brissett, and with this OL that’s not a bad thing!

Hey, Colts organization: stop pissing down my back and telling me it's raining!

Just shut him down

yeah.

at this point i would be happy if he gets 4 games in to finish the year

no

no need to do that yet

i think there is value by staying on the active roster for now. unless the soreness just doesn't go away

He was asked whether they considered putting him on IR to free up a roster spot and he said absolutely not.

Of course, it affects ticket sales.

That may be but I hope he returns even if it's just for the last couple of games because I think it's an important part of his process to get some real game reps under his belt so he can come back next year with a new head coach and really be back in game form vs still be in a recovery process.

i don't think that has anything to do with it at this point

Yeah, most Tickets are already paid for.

It can drastically affect the secondary ticket market. If ticket scalpers/agencies/etc can't sell their tickets, or if some people stop going, it affects the team's pocket books with concessions, apparel, and other game day sales. I saw one figure for 2013 where the Colts got $5.2 million from concessions.

It also may affect how much the advertisers pay during the game for commercials.

you are wrong

Shocked, just absolutely shocked...

Jim Irsay is a con-artist...

I don't mind a lost year in which this team accrues draft capital while blooding its young players.

I do mind a lost year in which this team has Pagano as a lame duck coach, teaching players a system that won't be in place a year from now and not blooding young players in the process.

I am more and more of the mindset its pointless to bring Luck back this year.

I did not feel that way a month ago or really even two weeks ago.

Week after week though of poor coaching and blown leads, this team is going nowhere this yar

It isn't so much that, it's a problem with the overall fan base. Like it or not, the Colts (and Pacers) have a relatively weak fan base. If the teams aren't good, people won't pay much attention. Sure, there are some die-hard fans, but many of the people paying big money for the good seats are fair-weather. It's the reason that the roof is never open for a game at LOS. The fans would complain about being uncomfortable not having air-conditioning during the game. Irsay knows this from pre-Manning years of experience. It has improved since those days, but could pretty easily slide back. THAT is the main concern and the reason for the crap going on now.

I can say this because I'm from there and grew up with it. Hell, I stopped watching the Pacers (and NBA) after they lost to the Lakers in the Finals in 1999/2000. They will never win a title, so I stopped wasting my time. When I was in grade school, the Pacers would give free tickets to the schools. I attended many a game in Market Square Arena back in the Wayman Tisdale days for free. We'd get free tickets and my friend's parents would load us into the car and off we'd go.
/my longest post ever

"Congrats, I am really really proud." Chuck Pagano

*(as heard daily on Dan Dakich Show)

:cool:

Yep. Guy didn't throw a ball for 9 months. Those muscles have to get back into throwing shape. It's why I was always pessimistic about the record predictions this year. He was always unlikely to be "right" until late in the season anyway.

Those two wins hurt. It would've been nice to be ahead of Cleveland or SF in the pecking order. Those teams need QBs and may have overpaid to move up like the Bears did.

Yep need to become Browns and 9er fans quick!

True, though there’s potentially three franchise QB’s that could go for a bevy of picks.

It's really beginning to look like a shut down year for Luck. I'm okay with that unless it also means that Pagano gets another chance next year.

Which we should have done with the Luck pick.
I said it then, I was right as hindsight has shown

I'm curious of the evidence for why you feel vindicated.

I feel the same. It's not like Pagano hasn't played the injury card before to save his ass.

I dont get the sense that ballard likes pagano for the coach. Irsay told him to give pags one year (without grigson) and then make a decision. Being late in the process of hiring and that ballard wanted the job, he agreed.

Pagano needed to show some real coaching talent to retain his job and he hasnt done that. He has no injury card to play with ballard. Ballard got him a really good back up QB but pags flaws are still evident.

Toub will be our couch next year unless some "name" becomes available that irsay insists upon (harbaugh).

Agree completely. It was way too late to hire a quality coach when Ballard got there (thanks a lot Jim)........I forget which politician said this but you never want to waste a good crisis......I think Ballard was perfectly fine rolling with Chuckles cause smart guy that he is realized that the roster was a dumpster fire and would take two solid years of rebuild. By letting Jim keep Pagano he has a perfect target for fan fury while we suck this year while he puts his attention on the massive rebuild that this organization needs. Ballard has gone on record saying that his criteria for coach evaluation is talent development not just wins and losses. I am 100% confident that Pagano will be replaced. I think the only question is whether it will be mid season or not. I think the only scenario for mid season is if we have another massive blowout at a Home game. Jimmy doesn't like to be embarrassed.

I like that quote about not wasting a good crisis.

I dont think he will get replaced mid season unless there is a player mutiny. There is no real advantage to making an in season change unless the players are rebelling.

Wait, you're saying they shouldn't have drafted Luck? Am I reading that right?

you were wrong then and now

No, a high draft pick needs to be a defensive stalwart, something to compliment Luck and build a defense around. I'm sure one of those exists in this draft.

That's exactly correct, build a team, THEN add a QB. Throwing a frachise QB in the situation Luck faced just gets them killed.

What have we got for drafting Luck? A team pretty bare across the board talent wise except Luck, who is damaged.

Nope, spot on actually

It is as much about the fact it is a fairly small market with its edges having a fairly strong historical affiliation with other markets. It makes it hard to have as many diehard fans. Shit look at how poorly many larger markets have done with teams struggling, the Colts fan base does not look so bad then. We are certainly not Browns fans, but we could be LA fans.