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Kray007 03-09-2026 07:20 PM

$37 Million in perspective
 
It’s a lot of money, an obscene amount. But, if you’re not willing to pay it, you should cash in your chips as an NFL owner and open a Domino’s franchise. Guys who hand toss pizza, no matter how good they are at it, can be had for comparative pocket change.

Jones’s $37 Million cap hit lands him in 13th place among Quarterbacks. My guess is that he wants and deserves more than that. My guess is that he ends up with a contract a lot closer to $50 Million in average annual value. My guess is that, in 4 years, we’ll look back at $37 Million with fondness.

Racehorse 03-09-2026 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 344800)
It’s a lot of money, an obscene amount. But, if you’re not willing to pay it, you should cash in your chips as an NFL owner and open a Domino’s franchise. Guys who hand toss pizza, no matter how good they are at it, can be had for comparative pocket change.

Jones’s $37 Million cap hit lands him in 13th place among Quarterbacks. My guess is that he wants and deserves more than that. My guess is that he ends up with a contract a lot closer to $50 Million in average annual value. My guess is that, in 4 years, we’ll look back at $37 Million with fondness.

I would agree if there was no cap. We still have to work within the cap.

apballin 03-09-2026 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Kray007 (Post 344800)
It’s a lot of money, an obscene amount. But, if you’re not willing to pay it, you should cash in your chips as an NFL owner and open a Domino’s franchise. Guys who hand toss pizza, no matter how good they are at it, can be had for comparative pocket change.

Jones’s $37 Million cap hit lands him in 13th place among Quarterbacks. My guess is that he wants and deserves more than that. My guess is that he ends up with a contract a lot closer to $50 Million in average annual value. My guess is that, in 4 years, we’ll look back at $37 Million with fondness.

Small sample size from a guy coming off an injury and has already received a big contract with which his performance flopped afterwards. Expecting this guy to stay healthy and perform at that level is insanity in my opinion

Puck 03-09-2026 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 344810)
Small sample size from a guy coming off an injury and has already received a big contract with which his performance flopped afterwards. Expecting this guy to stay healthy and perform at that level is insanity in my opinion


Fill your glass up just a little. And relax and not think the worst of everything.

apballin 03-09-2026 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 344823)
Fill your glass up just a little. And relax and not think the worst of everything.

I definitely don’t think the worst of everything

I like that Pierce was signed, and I understand somehow him and Jones became a package deal

Jones resume and injury history are cause for concern if I’m being a realist

rm1369 03-09-2026 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 344810)
Small sample size from a guy coming off an injury and has already received a big contract with which his performance flopped afterwards. Expecting this guy to stay healthy and perform at that level is insanity in my opinion

The annual salary is of course a major issue, but the duration and structure are probably more important IMO. No way do I tie the franchise to DJ for 3-4 year at 40- 50 mil unless the structure allows for easy escapes. He’s never played a full season and has had a total of a season and a half of above average play. The team doesn’t have many options but to pay him this season. I’d make him play on the tag before I’d give him 50 mil with big guarantees.

Puck 03-09-2026 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 344824)
I definitely don’t think the worst of everything

I like that Pierce was signed, and I understand somehow him and Jones became a package deal

Jones resume and injury history are cause for concern if I’m being a realist

Best offense in the NFL for the 1st 10 weeks until jones got hurt. Yea he was injured. Playing football. It happens

rm1369 03-09-2026 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 344832)
Best offense in the NFL for the 1st 10 weeks until jones got hurt. Yea he was injured. Playing football. It happens

One, as you said - it was 10 games.

Two, the injuries happen a lot for DJ. It’s a very valid concern just as it was with AR. But DJ has significantly mores seasons of it, enough to know it’s not just bad luck. And he’s coming off one of the more difficult injuries for an athlete to recover from.

Three, the offense (and DJ in particular) were showing areas of concern even before the injury. DJ had seven turnovers in games 9 and 10. He looked like Giants DJ. That is concerning as well.

Racehorse 03-10-2026 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 344843)
One, as you said - it was 10 games.

Two, the injuries happen a lot for DJ. It’s a very valid concern just as it was with AR. But DJ has significantly mores seasons of it, enough to know it’s not just bad luck. And he’s coming off one of the more difficult injuries for an athlete to recover from.

Three, the offense (and DJ in particular) were showing areas of concern even before the injury. DJ had seven turnovers in games 9 and 10. He looked like Giants DJ. That is concerning as well.

I think the injury came earlier than reported. This franchise has been known to hide injuries before.

apballin 03-10-2026 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 344850)
I think the injury came earlier than reported. This franchise has been known to hide injuries before.

Could’ve been but with that being said we got to see what he looks like as an immobile pocket passer and it wasn’t good.

Colts And Orioles 03-11-2026 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 344862)



It could’ve been, but with that being said, we got to see what he looks like as an immobile pocket passer ...... and it wasn’t good.




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The lone positive is that he had less turnovers after he broke his fibula in that Chiefs game ...... Jones had 1 turnover in his last 3 games combined against the Chiefs, the Texans, and the Jaguars.

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apballin 03-11-2026 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 345024)
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The lone positive is that he had less turnovers after he broke his fibula in that Chiefs game ...... Jones had 1 turnover in his last 3 games combined against the Chiefs, the Texans, and the Jaguars.

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Not turning it over is the best route to victory so I’m with you there

But.. the offense being stagnant, going 3 and out routinely, and can’t score over 20 points unless Jonathan Taylor goes insane and puts the entire team on his back isn’t a good recipe.

I’m not even counting that jags game

Colts And Orioles 03-11-2026 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 345081)



Not turning it over is the best route to victory so I’m with you there

But.. the offense being stagnant, going 3 and out routinely, and can’t score over 20 points unless Jonathan Taylor goes insane and puts the entire team on his back isn’t a good recipe.

I’m not even counting that jags game.




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That's why I liked Daniel Jones a lot more before he broke his leg than after he broke it.

Before he broke his leg, the Colts went 8-2 and Jones had a QB rating of 101.6.

After Jones broke his leg, the Colts went 0-3 and Jones had a QB rating of 93.2.


That's why I said that the lone positive was that he turned the ball over less after he broke his leg ...... it was a positive, but it didn't nearly outweigh the negative of breaking his leg, which greatly hampered his mobility and also his ability to throw the ball as hard and as accurately as he previously had.

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apballin 03-12-2026 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 345100)
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That's why I liked Daniel Jones a lot more before he broke his leg than after he broke it.

Before he broke his leg, the Colts went 8-2 and Jones had a QB rating of 101.6.

After Jones broke his leg, the Colts went 0-3 and Jones had a QB rating of 93.2.


That's why I said that the lone positive was that he turned the ball over less after he broke his leg ...... it was a positive, but it didn't nearly outweigh the negative of breaking his leg, which greatly hampered his mobility and also his ability to throw the ball as hard and as accurately as he previously had.

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Hopefully he can return to form

Colts And Orioles 03-12-2026 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 345127)



Hopefully he can return to form.




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And stay in one piece.

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YDFL Commish 03-12-2026 06:55 PM

It's 36.6 million more than I have...and that's going down every day.


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