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Hoopsdoc 12-13-2025 12:38 PM

Rivers will start in Seattle.
 
Per Ian Rapaport, citing team sources.

Lov2fish 12-13-2025 12:55 PM

Mixed emotions about it. Has he showed enough for the confidence, or is he starting because of who he is? Did Leonard not show enough? I know, rookie, blah, blah, blah. He didn't do anything last week to make me say, NO, and his feet can save a broken play. I guess we will see. If he looks 44 years old Sunday, pull him and end the experiment.

albany ed 12-13-2025 01:10 PM

It makes Sundays' game full of possibilities. For me, had they entered this game with Leonard starting, I was certain of a loss. Now with Rivers at the helm, I have no freakin' idea of what this game will be like. I still don't like their chances, even with a healthy DJ, I wouldn't have expected a win. I don't think Rivers will make the difference, but I am intrigued.

Brylok 12-13-2025 01:10 PM

Fire everyone, but you can't because you don't have any 1st round picks for the next two years.
Not a serious football organization.

ChoppedWood 12-13-2025 01:17 PM

To me, this is a state of the Head Coach level decision.

Early this week I voted no to firing Steichen, and I will remain in that camp pending the outcome of tomorrow's game but I reserve the right to change that vote about 8 PM tomorrow evening.

Leonard has no injury designation for tomorrow, which I read to indicate he is the healthy back up. As such, this is SS telling everyone that his scheme is what wins games. He is proclaiming that an out of work geriatric dude with no mobility but a clear understanding of his game plan can execute his play calls to the point that we can win games in the NFL, up to and including enough games to make the playoff. If he's right, his status as the future should be secure for as long as he wants to be the coach here.

However, if he fails, he must be fired and here is my rationale. Leonard is a much closer replica to Jones than Rivers. We jumped out to the 7-1 record by way of Steichen using the full skill set of DJ with pocket movement, RPO's etc... Leonard definitely fits that mold much better than Rivers. Further, from knowing quite a bit about RL, he is apparently pretty much a play book maniac, and clearly has had roughly 8 months to learn it in preparation of possibly playing. So, if Rivers stands in the pocket tomorrow (he HAS no choice) and we shit the bed in all sorts of ways, this experiment by SS is a clear indication he is not capable of sound reasoning and he has to be removed as soon as the game ends.

This is really an incredible development and one of the most arrogant moves I can ever remember. Here's to hoping his bet is right, but consider me a skeptic until I see it.

Racehorse 12-13-2025 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337796)
Fire everyone, Not a serious football organization.

Such an immature take.

Brylok 12-13-2025 01:30 PM

Andrew Luck quitting set us back 10 years. This is year 7.
I hope Phil doesn't get injured out there. But hes already a multimillionaire and can afford healthcare coverage.

Colts And Orioles 12-13-2025 01:30 PM

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I liked what I saw out of Riley Leonard last week A LOT ....... and that's why I'm glad that he's NOT starting this week ...... I don't want him playing until his knee is 100%, because I'm more concerned about his long-term health than I am about this one solitary game against the Seahawks. We've already suffered through seeing one mobile quarterback play on an injured leg, and I don't want to see more of that.

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Brylok 12-13-2025 01:54 PM

Colts are going by the way of the NBA/Pacers, boxing, Reds, and the NHL.
Carlie has some big time work on her plate. Good luck, and nothing against her. I just stop watching as I get older.

albany ed 12-13-2025 02:10 PM

I'll never stop watching. It's fun, win or lose. Of course, more fun winning. I've seen enough shit years to realize it's just football and winning doesn't make me a better person and losing doesn't make lessen me.

Hoopsdoc 12-13-2025 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 337802)
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I liked what I saw out of Riley Leonard last week A LOT ....... and that's why I'm glad that he's NOT starting this week ...... I don't want him playing until his knee is 100%, because I'm more concerned about his long-term health than I am about this one solitary game against the Seahawks. We've already suffered through seeing one mobile quarterback play on an injured leg, and I don't want to see more of that.

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Leonard won’t play again unless Rivers gets hurt or is just obviously overmatched. And even if that happens, I wouldn’t rule out them signing someone else.

This decision tells you everything you need to know about what they think of Leonard.

They think a guy who watched the game on his couch last Sunday is a better option than Leonard.

Hoopsdoc 12-13-2025 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 337802)
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I liked what I saw out of Riley Leonard last week A LOT ....... and that's why I'm glad that he's NOT starting this week ...... I don't want him playing until his knee is 100%, because I'm more concerned about his long-term health than I am about this one solitary game against the Seahawks. We've already suffered through seeing one mobile quarterback play on an injured leg, and I don't want to see more of that.

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Also, Leonard has no injury designation for tomorrow. None at all.

He’s healthy. They just don’t think he can play.

Hoopsdoc 12-13-2025 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337801)
Andrew Luck quitting set us back 10 years. This is year 7.
I hope Phil doesn't get injured out there. But hes already a multimillionaire and can afford healthcare coverage.

Someone said vested veterans get healthcare for 5 years after their career is over.

This is just Phil reupping his health coverage.

I mean, he’s got like 12 kids so that’s probably a smart move. Lol.

Brylok 12-13-2025 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337809)
Someone said vested veterans get healthcare for 5 years after their career is over.

This is just Phil reupping his health coverage.

I mean, he’s got like 12 kids so that’s probably a smart move. Lol.

He's already a multimillionaire, but with a wife and dozen kids, it would definitely help. I just hope he doesn't get hurt out there.
What's he getting paid for these 4 games? Has that info came out yet? $12 million or thereabouts? I'd hope so for him and his health/time.

apballin 12-13-2025 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337808)
Also, Leonard has no injury designation for tomorrow. None at all.

He’s healthy. They just don’t think he can play.

It’s not that, Shane clearly values the pre snap reads and changes that the guy behind center must make.

I like what I seen from Leonard as well, the potential is there.

Just not quite time, but he’d better be ready Sunday I’m sure they’re telling him that

Brylok 12-13-2025 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 337817)
It’s not that, Shane clearly values the pre snap reads and changes that the guy behind center must make.

I like what I seen from Leonard as well, the potential is there.

Just not quite time, but he’d better be ready Sunday I’m sure they’re telling him that

Leonard is terrible, not an NFL QB, and was only drafted to please the ND fans in this state. Poor planning/team building.

Oldcolt 12-13-2025 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337796)
Fire everyone, but you can't because you don't have any 1st round picks for the next two years.
Not a serious football organization.

Do you really think that two first round draft picks not being available makes you incapable of firing everyone (something I am against right now). One of those picks is Sauce so you are really out one first round pick (and it would definitely not be of Sauces value). It is nothing. Would stop no-one from taking over here. If our owners want to start over they not only can, but most likely would get whomever they wanted to run the organization. These women appear to be quality and they are who we are now. It will take time to put their stamp on us but we should wait a few years before declaring anything about us yet. They deserve a chance. Each generation has been better so far (not a big stretch after Bob). Let's hope it keeps going.

apballin 12-13-2025 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337818)
Leonard is terrible, not an NFL QB, and was only drafted to please the ND fans in this state. Poor planning/team building.

You basing that off getting thrown out there in a rainy game where they were getting their ass kicked already?

He wasn’t the reason they lost

Oldcolt 12-13-2025 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337804)
Colts are going by the way of the NBA/Pacers, boxing, Reds, and the NHL.
Carlie has some big time work on her plate. Good luck, and nothing against her. I just stop watching as I get older.

I'm 72. Been a fan since I was 12. Have hated on this team so many times I cannot remember. Cursed them every Sunday for what seemed decades. How I 'root'. Never stopped watching. Maybe when I get old I will though

Puck 12-13-2025 03:32 PM

This is a great story. Lost in all of this is, The D is going to get fucking scorched by Darnold.

Colts And Orioles 12-13-2025 03:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 337808)



Also, Leonard has no injury designation for tomorrow. None at all.

He’s healthy ...... they just don’t think he can play.




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If he's healthy, then I'm glad.

But all week long, we have been hearing that Leonard has an injured knee ...... if they are now saying that the injury is completely healed, then I'm thrilled. But teams don't always tell the truth about injuries, nor do players.

After what I saw of him in his 3 quarters of play against the Jaguars, I like the notion/possibility of having Leonard (at the very least) as an adequate, 2nd-string quarterback in 2026.

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Colts And Orioles 12-13-2025 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337811)



What's he getting paid for these 4 games ???




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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkSx3b2hUfk




https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i..._nVJq_3mA4gw&s

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Colts And Orioles 12-13-2025 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337818)



Leonard is terrible, not an NFL QB.




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OK, now you have completely strained your credibility. ...... you are saying shit just for the sake of being a contrarian.

Just a few days ago, you said that we should start Brett Rypien "because he was good enough to be put in that position before."



Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337462)




You start Rypien. Next man up. He was good enough to be placed in his position before, he should be starting now. l Sign a reasonable FA QB off the street. Don't bring back an old, famous name to create a show. Doing a circus act clown show because your season is fucked, regardless of whoever QB starts, is just a gross to me.

I've made my opinion clear, and won't be posting about this anymore.





Rypien is a career 3rd-string/4th string NFL QB who hasn't taken a snap from center since the 2023 season. For his "career" he is 98-for-168 (58.3% Completion Rate) for 950 Yards Passing, 4 TD's, 9 INT's, and has a Passer Rating of 59.9.

Leonard, on the the hand, was thrown into one solitary game cold with no NFL experience at all, and he performed better than anyone expected him to. He was 18-for-29, and if not for the incompetent referees he would have been 19-for-29 with 1 TD and 0 INT's.



You are claiming that the Colts are a clown-show organization, tantamount to Vince McMahon and the WWF ...... the only thing tantamount to the phoniness of the WWF is your trolling the team's desperate efforts to salvage the season that started out so promisingly before Daniel Jones fractured his left fibula.

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Brylok 12-13-2025 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apballin (Post 337821)
You basing that off getting thrown out there in a rainy game where they were getting their ass kicked already?

He wasn’t the reason they lost

He was painfully average at Notre Dame. You must not watch much football.

sherck 12-13-2025 04:38 PM

Is there anyway to block a poster?

I am at that point with Brylok. He has not added positively to this board in a while.

apballin 12-13-2025 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337840)
He was painfully average at Notre Dame. You must not watch much football.

I watched him play last week, how he played last year has nothing to do with where he’s at now

Puck 12-13-2025 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337846)
Is there anyway to block a poster?

I am at that point with Brylok. He has not added positively to this board in a while.

Uo to the mods. I won't interfere

nate505 12-13-2025 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337846)
Is there anyway to block a poster?

I am at that point with Brylok. He has not added positively to this board in a while.

You can ignore posters here. You just go to their profile, select "User Lists", and then there's an ignore feature option.

I just tested it out on apballin! Then I quickly removed him because I love his posts.

Brylok 12-13-2025 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337846)
Is there anyway to block a poster?

I am at that point with Brylok. He has not added positively to this board in a while.

Fuck off, junior. We here were all banned from the established, positive only forums . That's how we wound up here. If you want positivity, go over to .com. I've been here for years. I doubt you've been banned from anywhere. You can't even spell Shrek right. Can't face your ogre reflection in the mirror. Or shirk, can't face yourself evading your responsibilities as a good poster here.

Go play golf

/You probably live in Geist/Carmel/Noblesville/etc
//You probably weren't born and raised around here
//You probably just get butthurt to easily

Oldcolt 12-13-2025 05:50 PM

Braylok obviously loves this team and is in pain about how shitty/mediocre we have been for ages. Nobody can post this much hate, with this much intensity this often unless they are in pissed/sick as hell and you can't get this pissed unless you really care. Dude is grieving, given up hope. He isn't sensible and I bet he knows it but doesn't give a shit. Let him vent.

If you must the ignore works perfectly. Ive used it a couple of times but ended up relenting and reading everyone.

Brylok 12-13-2025 06:13 PM

Just getting old and tired, Old. And tired, Old and tired...
An ourosboros going on.
And I'll defend myself against any poster here, any time.

IndyNorm 12-13-2025 07:15 PM

Crazy. Hoping this decision has more to do w/ how Rivers performed in practice, but realistically speaking it probably has more to do w/ Leonard and Rypien. Not a good look for them to have someone who hasn't taken a snap in 5 years and only has 3 days of practice w/ the team leapfrog you both w/out any problem. Even if he is a probable HOFer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337811)
He's already a multimillionaire, but with a wife and dozen kids, it would definitely help. I just hope he doesn't get hurt out there.
What's he getting paid for these 4 games? Has that info came out yet? $12 million or thereabouts? I'd hope so for him and his health/time.

If Google is correct and I understand it correctly since he's a PS call up he's only going to be making the prorated amount of the league minimum for a vet, which is ~$75K/game. For any week that he's not activated from the PS he'll make $17.5K-$22K that week, which is the range for a PS player w/ >2 years of service time.

So re-upping the health insurance for another 5 years w/ all of the kids that he has makes more sense from a financial incentive standpoint.

sherck 12-13-2025 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 337858)
Fuck off, junior. We here were all banned from the established, positive only forums . That's how we wound up here. If you want positivity, go over to .com. I've been here for years. I doubt you've been banned from anywhere. You can't even spell Shrek right. Can't face your ogre reflection in the mirror. Or shirk, can't face yourself evading your responsibilities as a good poster here.

Go play golf

/You probably live in Geist/Carmel/Noblesville/etc
//You probably weren't born and raised around here
//You probably just get butthurt to easily

My case in point.....

IndyNorm 12-13-2025 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 337820)
Do you really think that two first round draft picks not being available makes you incapable of firing everyone (something I am against right now). One of those picks is Sauce so you are really out one first round pick (and it would definitely not be of Sauces value). It is nothing. Would stop no-one from taking over here. If our owners want to start over they not only can, but most likely would get whomever they wanted to run the organization. These women appear to be quality and they are who we are now. It will take time to put their stamp on us but we should wait a few years before declaring anything about us yet. They deserve a chance. Each generation has been better so far (not a big stretch after Bob). Let's hope it keeps going.

It doesn't prevent Carlie from firing people, but it might limit our replacement options at GM and HC b/c candidates could very well see it that they won't be able to fix the QB situation until 2028 at the earliest.

sherck 12-13-2025 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate505 (Post 337857)
You can ignore posters here. You just go to their profile, select "User Lists", and then there's an ignore feature option.

I just tested it out on apballin! Then I quickly removed him because I love his posts.

You rock! Thank you!

Brylok 12-13-2025 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 337864)
Crazy. Hoping this decision has more to do w/ how Rivers performed in practice, but realistically speaking it probably has more to do w/ Leonard and Rypien. Not a good look for them to have someone who hasn't taken a snap in 5 years and only has 3 days of practice w/ the team leapfrog you both w/out any problem. Even if he is a probable HOFer.



If Google is correct and I understand it correctly since he's a PS call up he's only going to be making the prorated amount of the league minimum for a vet, which is ~$75K/game. For any week that he's not activated from the PS he'll make $17.5K-$22K that week, which is the range for a PS player w/ >2 years of service time.

So re-upping the health insurance for another 5 years w/ all of the kids that he has makes more sense from a financial incentive standpoint.

That's good. Smart. I hope he doesn't get injured out there.

Brylok 12-13-2025 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337867)
My case in point.....

Sorry that the snow has covered your golf course. Perhaps you can affix a plow of some sorts and drive your cart around your neighborhood/culdesac?

Brylok 12-13-2025 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337867)
My case in point.....

Girls are not weak, they can shovel snow as well as anyone else. In fact, middle school girls are often stronger than middle school aged boys. If you need snow clearance for your putting green or driveway/culdesac, don't rule out your girls.

Oldcolt 12-13-2025 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 337868)
It doesn't prevent Carlie from firing people, but it might limit our replacement options at GM and HC b/c candidates could very well see it that they won't be able to fix the QB situation until 2028 at the earliest.

It might. But I would guess that most of these people have huge enough egos that lacking one first round draft pick is something they all believe they can overcome.It will more to have with how they view our new ownership I would bet.

Hoopsdoc 12-13-2025 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 337846)
Is there anyway to block a poster?

I am at that point with Brylok. He has not added positively to this board in a while.

If you don’t like what he posts, just scroll past them.

We’re all misfits here for one reason or another.

No reason to call each other out.

Respectfully.


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