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CletusPyle 08-20-2023 07:47 AM

Taylor Will Be Back With The Colts Today!
 
Not sure how excited to be about this, he still hasn't been cleared to practice but at least he is back with the team!

https://www.si.com/nfl/colts/news/co...shane-steichen

omahacolt 08-20-2023 10:07 AM

i will care once he is cleared to practice and does

ChaosTheory 08-20-2023 11:52 AM

Where did Peyton Manning get his stem cell therapy? Germany? So that's like a 12-hour flight?

Leave on Wednesday, arrive Thursday, treatment/checkup Friday, leave Friday/Saturday, get home Saturday/Sunday... Back with the Colts Monday.

Plausible?

Oldcolt 08-20-2023 12:44 PM

If he went for stem cell therapy it is a bad sign. It means he hasn't healed and isn't ready to play football. Rather than focus on what he is acting like I am getting concerned about his viability as a runner going forward. Ankles are really tricky. We need honesty but this is the Colts so that is an impossibility and JT/his handlers are not explaining his stance-whatever the hell it is. I just am trying to ignore the whole thing (obviously not doing a good job of it)

IndyNorm 08-20-2023 01:07 PM

Yeah, if he's getting stem cell therapy that is definitely not good. Maybe this whole thing is about the Colts medical staff fucking up the situation with his ankle last year which made the injury worse?

Oldcolt 08-20-2023 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 271608)
Yeah, if he's getting stem cell therapy that is definitely not good. Maybe this whole thing is about the Colts medical staff fucking up the situation with his ankle last year which made the injury worse?

IF true that would be a damn good reason to ask for a trade. We, as of now, have no way of knowing.

IndyNorm 08-20-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 271610)
IF true that would be a damn good reason to ask for a trade. We, as of now, have no way of knowing.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Although based on the timeline that we know of he didn't request to be traded until after he was turned down on his extension request and got all butt hurt about Irsay's tweet.

CletusPyle 08-20-2023 01:59 PM

I have never heard anything official on stem cell therapy for JT...where did that rumor start?

Discflinger 08-20-2023 02:01 PM

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ChaosTheory 08-20-2023 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 271615)
I have never heard anything official on stem cell therapy for JT...where did that rumor start?

It's definitely not official... I heard Tom Pelissaro, the insider guy, talking to Rich Eisen. Specifically at the 0:40 mark here...

https://youtu.be/GtV3StmZZrc

Paraphrasing: He has a legitimate ankle injury. I'll choose my words carefully... There are certain types of treatment that you might have to go to certain places in order to receive it. I'm not saying he did that, but that's a logical explanation for why you'd want to leave state and leave sight for a few days...

As I posted in another thread, this is about the only logical (non-stupid) explanation I've come across. And we've seen players do it in the past.

Chromeburn 08-20-2023 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 271619)
It's definitely not official... I heard Tom Pelissaro, the insider guy, talking to Rich Eisen. Specifically at the 0:40 mark here...

https://youtu.be/GtV3StmZZrc

Paraphrasing: He has a legitimate ankle injury. I'll choose my words carefully... There are certain types of treatment that you might have to go to certain places in order to receive it. I'm not saying he did that, but that's a logical explanation for why you'd want to leave state and leave sight for a few days...

As I posted in another thread, this is about the only logical (non-stupid) explanation I've come across. And we've seen players do it in the past.

WTF? Did it fall off? I thought it was a high ankle sprain. What the hell happened to him?

CletusPyle 08-21-2023 09:00 AM

JT will be traveling with the team to Philly....looks like both sides have come to their senses!

Brylok 08-21-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 271608)
Yeah, if he's getting stem cell therapy that is definitely not good. Maybe this whole thing is about the Colts medical staff fucking up the situation with his ankle last year which made the injury worse?

Interesting. This had crossed my mind as well.

BCN#1 08-21-2023 03:37 PM

Paraphrasing: He has a legitimate ankle injury. I'll choose my words carefully... There are certain types of treatment that you might have to go to certain places in order to receive it. I'm not saying he did that, but that's a logical explanation for why you'd want to leave state and leave sight for a few days...


hahaha... Cannabis and Magic Mushroom therapy!!! Yee-haaaa!!! :D

Chromeburn 08-21-2023 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCN#1 (Post 271696)
Paraphrasing: He has a legitimate ankle injury. I'll choose my words carefully... There are certain types of treatment that you might have to go to certain places in order to receive it. I'm not saying he did that, but that's a logical explanation for why you'd want to leave state and leave sight for a few days...


hahaha... Cannabis and Magic Mushroom therapy!!! Yee-haaaa!!! :D

https://regenorthosport.in/blog/stem...he%20treatment.

I wonder if this was more a tear than a sprain.

Dewey 5 08-21-2023 06:09 PM

Colts just gave Taylor permission to seek a trade.

HoosierinFL 08-21-2023 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 271716)
Colts just gave Taylor permission to seek a trade.

I saw that in the scroll while watching little league World Series….what the hell?

Dewey 5 08-21-2023 06:11 PM

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1693745637009859039

Racehorse 08-21-2023 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 271716)
Colts just gave Taylor permission to seek a trade.

Bet it is designed to make him see that his value is not what he thinks it is.

YDFL Commish 08-21-2023 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 271721)
Bet it is designed to make him see that his value is not what he thinks it is.

Yep, and if he's smart he'll fire his agent after seeing the light.

ChaosTheory 08-21-2023 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 271721)
Bet it is designed to make him see that his value is not what he thinks it is.

Just need a dummy team to not fuck it up.

Chromeburn 08-21-2023 06:48 PM

Colts have granted JT permission to seek a trade.

He is now able to find the team that will trade for him and give him 16 million a year.

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/16...L8ardaxv32vrGQ

rm1369 08-21-2023 06:55 PM

2nd or better, take it and move the fuck on. I’m tired of it. Let someone else overpay him. Doubt someone offers it though and we’ll be stuck with dealing with this shit all season and all next off season.

Hoopsdoc 08-21-2023 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 271732)
2nd or better, take it and move the fuck on. I’m tired of it. Let someone else overpay him. Doubt someone offers it though and we’ll be stuck with dealing with this shit all season and all next off season.

I’m fast approaching this point. This is AR’s team now and Taylor is a damned distraction.

Just get it settled one way or another.

JAFF 08-21-2023 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 271732)
2nd or better, take it and move the fuck on. I’m tired of it. Let someone else overpay him. Doubt someone offers it though and we’ll be stuck with dealing with this shit all season and all next off season.

Is there a team out there dumb enough to trade for Taylor? He is hurt and cant practice. Why give Indy anything? Wait till they cut him.

Chromeburn 08-21-2023 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 271736)
Is there a team out there dumb enough to trade for Taylor? He is hurt and cant practice. Why give Indy anything? Wait till they cut him.

Some people think he has contractitis. That he will suddenly pass a physical if traded.

apballin 08-21-2023 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 271736)
Is there a team out there dumb enough to trade for Taylor? He is hurt and cant practice. Why give Indy anything? Wait till they cut him.

Why cut him when they can just put him on the NFI list and let him end up like Leveon Bell

omahacolt 08-21-2023 07:52 PM

well this is unfortunate. really like taylor. now i kind of just want him off the fucking team. fuck him

ChaosTheory 08-21-2023 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 271738)
Some people think he has contractitis. That he will suddenly pass a physical if traded.

I know we all talk about this, but seriously, I've never dug into it... Are players actually able to manipulate the system by doing nothing more than saying "I'm hurt"?

Can these handsomely paid team doctors not make a diagnosis that holds weight in this regard?

Brylok 08-21-2023 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 271732)
2nd or better, take it and move the fuck on.

If you can get a 2nd, do that instantly.

What now prevents the other AFC South teams from telling his representative that they think he's worth $13-$15M? They have no intention of trading for him of course, they're just sticking it to the Colts. Sounds smart to me, and it would keep the chaos going and ultimately help them while hurting us.

I still say waive him if it comes to that point.

Racehorse 08-21-2023 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 271745)
If you can get a 2nd, do that instantly.

What now prevents the other AFC South teams from telling his representative that they think he's worth $13-$15M? They have no intention of trading for him of course, they're just sticking it to the Colts. Sounds smart to me, and it would keep the chaos going and ultimately help them while hurting us.

I still say waive him if it comes to that point.

His agent was probably told that the division is a no go.

Brylok 08-21-2023 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 271750)
His agent was probably told that the division is a no go.

Hope so.

ChoppedWood 08-21-2023 10:08 PM

Been saying for a while, fucking NFI and tie the cement blocks to his feet and let him sink. Dude is seriously a dumb ass. Who the fuck is going to give fair value to a dude that apparently had to get stem cell treatment on his ankle at the NFL's least valued position? WHO?

With each passing day the weight of the briefcase of cash gets lighter and lighter. DO NOT TRADE HIM, DO NOT DO SHIT, SHELVE HIM DUE TO HIS APPARENT "BACK ISSUE" COMING INTO CAMP AND LET HIM FUCKING ROT!

Chromeburn 08-21-2023 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 271742)
I know we all talk about this, but seriously, I've never dug into it... Are players actually able to manipulate the system by doing nothing more than saying "I'm hurt"?

Can these handsomely paid team doctors not make a diagnosis that holds weight in this regard?

Honestly, I don't know. I think medical docs can probably tell if you are faking or not. Especially when backed up with x-rays or such.

Chromeburn 08-21-2023 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 271745)
If you can get a 2nd, do that instantly.

What now prevents the other AFC South teams from telling his representative that they think he's worth $13-$15M? They have no intention of trading for him of course, they're just sticking it to the Colts. Sounds smart to me, and it would keep the chaos going and ultimately help them while hurting us.

I still say waive him if it comes to that point.

Rumors the Dolphins will try. Don't know how they will do it, they are 48 million over the cap next year. So maybe all in for one year.

ChaosTheory 08-21-2023 11:27 PM

They were talking about the Dolphins signing Dalvin Cook as well. And what did he sign with Jets for? 1yr for $7m?

Dolphins wouldn't beat that, how are they going to give Taylor and IND what they want?

ChoppedWood 08-21-2023 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 271762)
They were talking about the Dolphins signing Dalvin Cook as well. And what did he sign with Jets for? 1yr for $7m?

Dolphins wouldn't beat that, how are they going to give Taylor and IND what they want?

And that's where I just don't understand what the fuck this dude is thinking. WHY, WHY would any owner say fuck it and buck the entire market, when they have no incentive to do so with a dude that is INJURED???? This makes no fucking sense.

CletusPyle 08-22-2023 08:00 AM

I thought things were getting better? He had rejoined the team and I assumed he would be evaluated and hopefully be cleared to practice...what the hell happened? Kid's either got a screw loose or the Colts are just trying to convince him that the grass isn't greener anywhere else than it is in Indy!

ChaosTheory 08-22-2023 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 271775)
I thought things were getting better? He had rejoined the team and I assumed he would be evaluated and hopefully be cleared to practice...what the hell happened? Kid's either got a screw loose or the Colts are just trying to convince him that the grass isn't greener anywhere else than it is in Indy!

That's the big speculation. Guys are bringing up Lamar Jackson... Ravens let him look around. Now, he ended up signing a $260m contract so you can't call it apples-to-apples...

But the point they're making is that Lamar wanted a bigger Deshaun Watson deal ($230m guaranteed). They let him shop other teams and realize that he isn't worth what he'd hoped. Again, it's $260m so boohoo, but he got something like $180m guaranteed when he apparently expected way more.

Chromeburn 08-22-2023 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 271782)
That's the big speculation. Guys are bringing up Lamar Jackson... Ravens let him look around. Now, he ended up signing a $260m contract so you can't call it apples-to-apples...

But the point they're making is that Lamar wanted a bigger Deshaun Watson deal ($230m guaranteed). They let him shop other teams and realize that he isn't worth what he'd hoped. Again, it's $260m so boohoo, but he got something like $180m guaranteed when he apparently expected way more.

Browns are hurting because of that terrible contract.


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