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YDFL Commish 03-01-2023 04:58 PM

Colts NFLPA Report Card
 
https://nflpa.com/indianapolis-colts-report-card

Terrible scores in Team Travel and Nutrition. Pretty good on every other metric.

Mr. Session 03-01-2023 05:57 PM

What the actual fuck, how can you be that bad for nutrition? I guess these guys get paid enough to feed themselves, but damn.

Didn't they have a whole promo video about their nutrition team last year...

ChaosTheory 03-01-2023 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 260501)
What the actual fuck, how can you be that bad for nutrition? I guess these guys get paid enough to feed themselves, but damn.

Didn't they have a whole promo video about their nutrition team last year...

This is a weird "dataset." These letter grades aren't relative to the rest of the league. They have a B+ in two separate categories... but one of them ranks 5th in the league, the other ranks 10th.

And then like Food/Nutrition gets a D and ranks 22nd. Meaning 1/3 of the league has a lower rating than a D. So the #1 team in the league could only be getting a C+ grade or something.

Strength coaches get an A-... but that's only good for 17th in the league.

Looks like a 1-5 player survey.

JAFF 03-01-2023 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 260501)
What the actual fuck, how can you be that bad for nutrition? I guess these guys get paid enough to feed themselves, but damn.

Didn't they have a whole promo video about their nutrition team last year...

This is Indiana. If they could deep fry a lugnut, it would be a household staple.

YDFL Commish 03-01-2023 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Session (Post 260501)
What the actual fuck, how can you be that bad for nutrition? I guess these guys get paid enough to feed themselves, but damn.

Didn't they have a whole promo video about their nutrition team last year...

Is the nutrition worse or forcing 6'5" 300 lb men to sit in coach or economy after busting their asses for 60 minutes?

YDFL Commish 02-28-2025 06:45 PM

Three years in a row and the same bullshit? Maybe Ballard isn't the problem, why FA's won't come here?

https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025/indianapolis-colts

Someone in the Irsay family has to fix this.

apballin 03-01-2025 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 321230)
Three years in a row and the same bullshit? Maybe Ballard isn't the problem, why FA's won't come here?

https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025/indianapolis-colts

Someone in the Irsay family has to fix this.

Oh boo fuckin hoo, how about win some goddam games and you can sit first class you cry baby motherfuckers.

These motherfuckers are ridiculous

Colts And Orioles 03-01-2025 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 321230)



Three years in a row and the same bullshit? Maybe Ballard isn't the problem, why FA's won't come here ???


https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025/indianapolis-colts


Someone in the Irsay family has to fix this.




o


The Food Service and Nutrition both improved.

It was one category in 2023 (Food Service/Nutrition), and it was a D.

It was broken up into 2 categories in 2025. "Nutritionist / Dietician" got a B+, and "Food/Dining Area" got a C.



The "Team Travel" category got an F in 2023, and a D+ in 2025, although I don't even know what that category means ...... you get on a plane to travel to the city of the opposing team's stadium, and if the plane doesn't crash and kill everybody, everybody's happy.

o

Dam8610 03-02-2025 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 321248)
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The Food Service and Nutrition both improved.

It was one category in 2023 (Food Service/Nutrition), and it was a D.

It was broken up into 2 categories in 2025. "Nutritionist / Dietician" got a B+, and "Food/Dining Area" got a C.



The "Team Travel" category got an F in 2023, and a D+ in 2025, although I don't even know what that category means ...... you get on a plane to travel to the city of the opposing team's stadium, and if the plane doesn't crash and kill everybody, everybody's happy.

o

Probably has to do with available amenities on the plane.

apballin 03-02-2025 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 321263)
Probably has to do with available amenities on the plane.

They want the plane to resemble the vehicle they drive

Therefore unless the plane has seats like an Escalade and Ruth Chris or st Elmo isn’t the food offerings… they’re gonna give it an F

Racehorse 03-02-2025 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 321263)
Probably has to do with available amenities on the plane.

quality of stewardesses?

Colts And Orioles 03-02-2025 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 321267)



Quality of stewardesses ???




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I'm generally not an "old school" type of fan who often points out how much better the game was back in the 50's and 60's (it was different, it wasn't necessarily better), but somebody like Vince Lombardi would probably prefer the airplane stewardesses to be complete bitches to his players to put them in an angry, hostile, and competitive frame of mind for a sport as brutal as football is ...... if the stewardesses were total cunts to his players, and the players subsequently graded the air travel service with an "F", Lombardi probably would have said, "Good job, women ...... thank you very much."

o

Racehorse 03-02-2025 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 321279)
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I'm generally not an "old school" type of fan who often points out how much better the game was back in the 50's and 60's (it was different, it wasn't necessarily better), but somebody like Vince Lombardi would probably prefer the airplane stewardesses to be complete bitches to his players to put them in an angry, hostile, and competitive frame of mind for a sport as brutal as football is ...... if the stewardesses were total cunts to his players, and the players subsequently graded the air travel service with an "F", Lombardi probably would have said, "Good job, women ...... thank you very much."

o

I was thinking about the looks more than the level of service. However, Deshawn Watson and Justin Tucker probably would want them to provide a full service.

Colts And Orioles 03-04-2025 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 321248)
o


The "Team Travel" category got an F in 2023, and a D+ in 2025, although I don't even know what that category means ...... you get on a plane to travel to the city of the opposing team's stadium, and if the plane doesn't crash and kill everybody, everybody's happy.

o


Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 321263)



Probably has to do with available amenities on the plane.





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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 321264)



They want the plane to resemble the vehicle they drive.

Therefore, unless the plane has seats like an Escalade and Ruth Chris, or St Elmo isn’t the food offerings …... they’re gonna give it an F.




o


The Colts play in Indianapolis, in the Midwest. They play in Europe once every 8 years. So other than that, their longest plane is ride about 2 and-a-half to 3 hours. How many "amenities" do you need ??? Gatorade and some food ??? If you eat before you get on the plane, you don't even need that.


Again, I'm not a proponent of the proverbial "good old days" when people walked barefoot in the snow for 5 miles to get to school every day, but I think that we've gone to the other absurd extreme with some of this nonsense.

o

YDFL Commish 03-04-2025 08:23 PM

Fact: The distance between airplane seats, as well as the width and comfort of those seats has declined significantly since 1965.

Fact: The average height and weight of NFL players has increased significantly since 1965.

When you combine these fact of the two eras it's obvious that the players in 1965 were flying in more comfort than the players today.

Colts And Orioles 03-06-2025 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 321369)



FACT: l The distance between airplane seats, as well as the width and comfort of those seats has declined significantly since 1965.

FACT: l The average height and weight of NFL players has increased significantly since 1965.


When you combine these fact of the two eras, it's obvious that the players in 1965 were flying in more comfort than are the players of today.



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Thanks for the info ...... I did not know that.

And that's crazy, about the room being lessened since 1965 ...... if anything, you would think that they would make the seats more roomier because Americans in general have gotten larger.


That said, I'm not sure that there is much that Jim Irsay could do about that, short of designing and building his own custom-made airplanes made specifically for his team to travel on.

o

IndyNorm 03-10-2025 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 321369)
Fact: The distance between airplane seats, as well as the width and comfort of those seats has declined significantly since 1965.

Fact: The average height and weight of NFL players has increased significantly since 1965.

When you combine these fact of the two eras it's obvious that the players in 1965 were flying in more comfort than the players today.

Did NFL teams fly on chartered airplanes back then? They do know, and the seats are larger and more spread out than the standard commercial planes that us schmucks have to fly on. Despite the overall low travel score, 59% of the Colts players said they have a comfortable amount of space on flights.

YDFL Commish 03-10-2025 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 321676)
Did NFL teams fly on chartered airplanes back then? They do know, and the seats are larger and more spread out than the standard commercial planes that us schmucks have to fly on. Despite the overall low travel score, 59% of the Colts players said they have a comfortable amount of space on flights.

Yes, all NFL teams do have chartered flights, except the Patriots and Cardinals, who own their own planes. The Pats had two planes for a time, but both were dated and small. They have since cut down to one plane and also do not grade well in team travel. The Cards of all teams, seem to have a large modern plane, and grade very well in team travel.

So, perhaps the issue the players have, is that they are flying on small dated charter flights. After all the airlines are surely losing money on these charters.

Colts And Orioles 03-10-2025 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 321676)



Did NFL teams fly on chartered airplanes back then? They do know, and the seats are larger and more spread out than the standard commercial planes that us schmucks have to fly on. Despite the overall low travel score, 59% of the Colts players said that they have a comfortable amount of space on flights.




o


So the room/space isn't an issue for more than half of the Colts players ...... thanks.

It's probably linemen and linebackers that say that they need more room.

o

IndyNorm 03-10-2025 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 321776)
o


So the room/space isn't an issue for more than half of the Colts players ...... thanks.

It's probably linemen and linebackers that say that they need more room.

o

That or they're divas. I wouldn't doubt someone like Franklin or Mitchell would bitch about their chartered seat being too small b/c it doesn't fold all of the way back into a bed.

IndyNorm 03-10-2025 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 321759)
Yes, all NFL teams do have chartered flights, except the Patriots and Cardinals, who own their own planes. The Pats had two planes for a time, but both were dated and small. They have since cut down to one plane and also do not grade well in team travel. The Cards of all teams, seem to have a large modern plane, and grade very well in team travel.

So, perhaps the issue the players have, is that they are flying on small dated charter flights. After all the airlines are surely losing money on these charters.

I would be really surprised if airlines lost money on these charter flights. I'm sure they charge the NFL teams enough and then some to make up for the lower capacity on the plane.

From what I found w/ some quick Googling the Colts charter a Boeing 767, so it's a wide body aircraft. Maybe some other teams fly something newer like B787s or A330 Neos, which could be an availability thing as I'm sure the options in a city w/ a large, international airport are much more than in a town w/ a smaller airport.

YDFL Commish 03-10-2025 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 321782)
I would be really surprised if airlines lost money on these charter flights. I'm sure they charge the NFL teams enough and then some to make up for the lower capacity on the plane.

From what I found w/ some quick Googling the Colts charter a Boeing 767, so it's a wide body aircraft. Maybe some other teams fly something newer like B787s or A330 Neos, which could be an availability thing as I'm sure the options in a city w/ a large, international airport are much more than in a town w/ a smaller airport.

These chartered aircraft are usually old outdated aircraft that were gonig to be put out to pasture. Some teams players complained that the seats were so old that they still had ash trays.


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