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Chromeburn 02-11-2023 06:47 PM

Steichen Eagles OC
 
Rumors on NFL radio it’s Steichen and they will announce next week. He will keep Bubba and Gus as assistants and will build his own offensive staff.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-11-2023 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259878)
Rumors on NFL radio it’s Steichen and they will announce next week. He will keep Bubba and Gus as assistants and will build his own offensive staff.


Makes sense that he would retain Bradley since they worked together several years on the Chargers staff.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-11-2023 07:32 PM

And of course, some national media (using that term loosely because it is LaCanfora after all) thought that the Colts already hired Steichen several years ago :D


http://coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35352

ChaosTheory 02-11-2023 07:49 PM

I hope that's true. Keeping the defense and special teams units intact is a big deal.

Dam8610 02-11-2023 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259878)
Rumors on NFL radio it’s Steichen and they will announce next week. He will keep Bubba and Gus as assistants and will build his own offensive staff.

Not my first choice for head coach, but definitely better than Saturday. Retaining Gus Bradley as DC makes it an A+ move IMO. Now to hope Steichen can put together an offensive staff that can develop a rookie QB into a franchise QB, and hopefully more of a pocket passer than a hybrid QB/RB. Please no Greg Roman style offense in Indy.

Spike 02-11-2023 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 259887)
Not my first choice for head coach, but definitely better than Saturday. Retaining Gus Bradley as DC makes it an A+ move IMO. Now to hope Steichen can put together an offensive staff that can develop a rookie QB into a franchise QB, and hopefully more of a pocket passer than a hybrid QB/RB. Please no Greg Roman style offense in Indy.

Why not? Who was your first choice and why?

Dam8610 02-11-2023 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 259889)
Why not? Who was your first choice and why?

Based on knowing nothing about them but the results they've gotten for their own teams, my choices in order would've been Ben Johnson, DeMeco Ryans, and Brian Callahan. Steichen's fine, especially if Ballard's team liked him best.

Oldcolt 02-12-2023 09:51 AM

I am reading where Ballard will make the call. If true this alleviates a ton of fear I have.

ChoppedWood 02-12-2023 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 259903)
I am reading where Ballard will make the call. If true this alleviates a ton of fear I have.

So you are excited for Matt Pryor to be named the next Indianapolis Colts Head Coach?

Racehorse 02-12-2023 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259904)
So you are excited for Matt Pryor to be named the next Indianapolis Colts Head Coach?

I think he is thinking the opposite. He probably doesn’t think Ballard will hire an offensive lineman as coach, but Irsay would.

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 10:52 AM

Cool. Glad to hear that it's likely that Irsay put down the pills along w/ Ballard pulling his head out of his ass long enough for the 2 to make a decent, objective decision.

JAFF 02-12-2023 10:52 AM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...tor-positions/

This seemed like the best place to post it

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Eric Bieniemy has “outside shot” at Colts job, multiple options for coordinator positions
Posted by Mike Florio on February 12, 2023, 9:11 AM EST

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As Super Sunday arrives, one of the four primary coordinators stands out about the rest.

Chiefs offensive coordinator Eric Bieniemy, after five years of being considered for head-coaching jobs, remains in play for one of the two openings.



Agent Jason Fletcher, who began representing Bieniemy for the current hiring cycle, tells PFT that he has an “outside shot” at the coaching position in Indianapolis. Although Bieniemy has had only one interview, most of the interaction has occurred between team ownership and the league office.

If Bieniemy does not get the job in Indianapolis, he’ll have multiple options, per Fletcher. Bieniemy can: (1) stay with the Chiefs as offensive coordinator; (2) become the Ravens’ offensive coordinator; (3) become the Commanders’ offensive coordinator; or (4) potentially become the Cardinals’ offensive coordinator, depending on who is hired.

Bieniemy is the one member of coach Andy Reid’s staff who has had a prominent position without getting a head-coaching opportunity. Doug Pederson went from being the Chiefs’ offensive coordinator to Eagles and now Jaguars head coach. Matt Nagy followed Pederson and become the coach of the Bears. Quarterbacks coach Mike Kafka, who would have succeeded Bieniemy if he’d gotten a head-coaching job, has served as offensive coordinator for one year with the Giants — and is in the running for the Cardinals’ head-coaching job.

Bieniemy has served as offensive coordinator for each of the five years that quarterback Patrick Mahomes has filled the role of starter. And considering that Mahomes entered the NFL regarded as something other than a can’t-miss, all-time great, he needed some coaching to get to where he is. Bieniemy has been a key part of that.

Maybe Colts owner Jim Irsay, who at times has seemed determined to hire Jeff Saturday, can’t see that. Maybe Bieniemy will have to work magic with another offense before owners finally realize that he deserves a chance.

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 259905)
I think he is thinking the opposite. He probably doesn’t think Ballard will hire an offensive lineman as coach, but Irsay would.

To be fair to ChoppedWood, Ballard's track record at hiring is pretty bad (although it's pretty limited).

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259904)
So you are excited for Matt Pryor to be named the next Indianapolis Colts Head Coach?

LOL. Well since he didn't work out at any of the OL positions and he has blackmail info or Irsay or something, he has to be placed somewhere.

ChoppedWood 02-12-2023 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 259909)
LOL. Well since he didn't work out at any of the OL positions and he has blackmail info or Irsay or something, he has to be placed somewhere.

Exactly. There was much speculation that Bjorn Werner had some form of dirt involving Polian which allowed him to be employed and compensated for doing effectively nothing. It is simple deduction that Pryor has the same on Ballard.

Hoopsdoc 02-12-2023 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259904)
So you are excited for Matt Pryor to be named the next Indianapolis Colts Head Coach?

I really hope the Pryor/Pinter fiasco from last year sufficiently burned Ballards ass to where he won’t take chances like that going forward. He readily admitted he failed in his postseason presser.

As for Steichen, I hope it’s him. We need someone who can work with a young quarterback. Jalen Hurts improvement has been impressive.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-12-2023 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259910)
Exactly. There was much speculation that Bjorn Werner had some form of dirt involving Polian which allowed him to be employed and compensated for doing effectively nothing. It is simple deduction that Pryor has the same on Ballard.


Werner was a Grigs draft pick.

BCN#1 02-12-2023 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259878)
Rumors on NFL radio it’s Steichen and they will announce next week. He will keep Bubba and Gus as assistants and will build his own offensive staff.


Lets just hope there is no under table agreement tht the new coach must bring Saturday as an OC or "Asst Head Coach" or some shit... That would simply suck away at what is left of my enduring and wide ranging love of the Colts - warts and all.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-12-2023 01:06 PM

Rapoport is also indicating that Steichen is the frontrunner.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1624809620719173632

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The Colts have been informing candidates this morning that they are out, including interim coach Jeff Saturday who at one point appeared to be the favorite.

Now, Shane Steichen is considered to be the leader in the clubhouse to be their next head coach.

Chromeburn 02-12-2023 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 259908)
To be fair to ChoppedWood, Ballard's track record at hiring is pretty bad (although it's pretty limited).

He wanted Gus Bradley for a long time. Reich brought in a good staff. He kept Eberflus. Yeah mcDaniels sucked, but dude was highly sought after by just about every team with an open job. Not like he went out and hired Jeff Saturday. And Reich wasn’t terrible, he kept the team competitive despite a new QB every year. No coach will succeed under those circumstances and will eventually fail. If Reich had Luck I think we would have been looking at a long string of success.

Chromeburn 02-12-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259910)
Exactly. There was much speculation that Bjorn Werner had some form of dirt involving Polian which allowed him to be employed and compensated for doing effectively nothing. It is simple deduction that Pryor has the same on Ballard.

I don’t know how many times I have to say this. The GM doesn’t set the depth chart. The coach does. Ballard wasn’t forcing Reich to start Pryor, they thought the other guys would help elevate Pryor’s game. As soon as Saturday got here Pryor was tried at RG, then summarily benched by Saturday… the head coach. Partially I think Kelly starting the season injured is the reason Pryor wasn’t replaced sooner.

Chromeburn 02-12-2023 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 259887)
Not my first choice for head coach, but definitely better than Saturday. Retaining Gus Bradley as DC makes it an A+ move IMO. Now to hope Steichen can put together an offensive staff that can develop a rookie QB into a franchise QB, and hopefully more of a pocket passer than a hybrid QB/RB. Please no Greg Roman style offense in Indy.

To me when evaluating the accomplishments. He helped make Herbert into what he is. I like Steichen simply for what he did with Hurts. Everybody thought Hurts was a gasket player at best and they turned him into a franchise QB. I always read that Hurts was a great person with high character. Everyone loves him wherever he went, but they just couldn’t get him molded right. But the Eagles did it. Burrow was a more finished product. But that is just one aspect I’m looking at. Not sure how they interviews or what they had in plan.

I do imagine that Steinchen might align more with the Colts build strategy since the Eagles also emphasize strong line play. So a drastic overal wouldn’t be necessary, just he would be brought to help mold the QB of the future and get that final piece settled.

Chromeburn 02-12-2023 01:56 PM

Guess it’s just about official

http://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/35645160

Oldcolt 02-12-2023 02:20 PM

If true it looks like Jimmy got involved only when he felt the wheels were falling off. Then back to letting the professionals run the place. So much for all the hissy fits being thrown about us being a clown show. Fuck everyone for thinking the can get in our crazy owners head

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259922)
He wanted Gus Bradley for a long time. Reich brought in a good staff. He kept Eberflus. Yeah mcDaniels sucked, but dude was highly sought after by just about every team with an open job. Not like he went out and hired Jeff Saturday. And Reich wasn’t terrible, he kept the team competitive despite a new QB every year. No coach will succeed under those circumstances and will eventually fail. If Reich had Luck I think we would have been looking at a long string of success.

I have no qualms w/ the Reich hire or Bradley. My comments were solely towards the McDickface debacle. I'm not saying Ballard should have known he was going to bail on us, but Ballard should have been able to pick up what a total piece of shit McDickface is during the interviewing process. The fact that he didn't (or even worse that he did but decided to hire him anyway) should throw up a flag that Ballard isn't the best judge of character.

Anyway, I'm happy with Streichen. IMO it's a really good hire. Admittedly I'm a bit surprised he considered coming to the Colts after Sirianni got all butt hurt about Frank being fired, but glad he did.

ChaosTheory 02-12-2023 03:22 PM

Not to speak about the intangibles, but the transition to Steichen's offensive system seems like it should be quickest we could've gotten from an new HC.

-Frank Reich (QB Coach) and Nick Sirianni (OQC) started in SD together in 2013.

-Reich moves to OC, Sirianni moves to QB coach, and Steichen joins as OQC for 2014 and 2015.

-Reich leaves for PHI OC job, Sirianni moves to WR coach, Steichen takes over as QB coach, work together 2016 and 2017.

-Sirianni joins Reich in IND in 2018, Steichen promotes from QB coach to OC from 2018-2020.

-Steichen joins Sirianni in PHI in 2021 and 2022.

Chromeburn 02-12-2023 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 259927)
If true it looks like Jimmy got involved only when he felt the wheels were falling off. Then back to letting the professionals run the place. So much for all the hissy fits being thrown about us being a clown show. Fuck everyone for thinking the can get in our crazy owners head

Weird how he stepped in and got his team, who desperately needs a young QB, in a position to draft a young QB.

Chromeburn 02-12-2023 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 259929)
I have no qualms w/ the Reich hire or Bradley. My comments were solely towards the McDickface debacle. I'm not saying Ballard should have known he was going to bail on us, but Ballard should have been able to pick up what a total piece of shit McDickface is during the interviewing process. The fact that he didn't (or even worse that he did but decided to hire him anyway) should throw up a flag that Ballard isn't the best judge of character.

Anyway, I'm happy with Streichen. IMO it's a really good hire. Admittedly I'm a bit surprised he considered coming to the Colts after Sirianni got all butt hurt about Frank being fired, but glad he did.

I assume if McDaniels was a dick during the interview process they wouldn’t have tried to hire him.

Anyway yeah, I think he was one of the favorable candidates.

YDFL Commish 02-12-2023 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 259932)
Not to speak about the intangibles, but the transition to Steichen's offensive system seems like it should be quickest we could've gotten from an new HC.

-Frank Reich (QB Coach) and Nick Sirianni (OQC) started in SD together in 2013.

-Reich moves to OC, Sirianni moves to QB coach, and Steichen joins as OQC for 2014 and 2015.

-Reich leaves for PHI OC job, Sirianni moves to WR coach, Steichen takes over as QB coach, work together 2016 and 2017.

-Sirianni joins Reich in IND in 2018, Steichen promotes from QB coach to OC from 2018-2020.

-Steichen joins Sirianni in PHI in 2021 and 2022.


Steichen can't be any less innovative than Reich was. I do hope that he has some other traits, such as leadership and accountability, that Reich also seemed to lack.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-12-2023 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259941)
I assume if McDaniels was a dick during the interview process they wouldn’t have tried to hire him.

Anyway yeah, I think he was one of the favorable candidates.


Yeah, I agree.

Most people (not all) would try to put their best foot forward in an interview and try to smooth over any rough patches.


I think where Ballard went wrong with that hire was trusting his agent too much. Remember that Ballard's agent also represented McVisor. I would bet that Ballard asked his agent some questions to gather some intel about McVisor and was expecting candid feedback. Anyways the agent cut ties with McVisor after that stunt.

Brylok 02-12-2023 08:10 PM

Steichen would be an idiot to go to the Colts.

Oldcolt 02-12-2023 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 259947)
Steichen would be an idiot to go to the Colts.

Man do I disagree with you. Not that the Colts are in a ton of trouble and have been just floating without a rudder for it seems like well over a year, they have. There are highly motivated types out there that love a challenge and believe so deeply in themselves that an opportunity like this won't scare them. Personally I like Morris better but then again I A) don't know shit about being a head coach and B)have met exactly zero of the candidates.

JAFF 02-12-2023 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 259955)
Man do I disagree with you. Not that the Colts are in a ton of trouble and have been just floating without a rudder for it seems like well over a year, they have. There are highly motivated types out there that love a challenge and believe so deeply in themselves that an opportunity like this won't scare them. Personally I like Morris better but then again I A) don't know shit about being a head coach and B)have met exactly zero of the candidates.

There is enough talent when everyone is healthy, they can compete. There are weapons on offense. There is a good defense in place. 2/3 of the kicking game comes back, they need a FG kicker.

And, they have an owner who will give them time to build a team.

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 259941)
I assume if McDaniels was a dick during the interview process they wouldn’t have tried to hire him.

Anyway yeah, I think he was one of the favorable candidates.

Agreed, and I'm sure McDickface covered up his doucheness well. The thing was though he had 3 obvious red flags that he was an asshole: the disaster in Denver from his previous HC job where his ego was a huge problem, he was caught spygating in Denver, and he was a Belicheat disciple. A reasonable person would be suspicious of him going into the interviews, so I would suspect Ballard to have been as well.

Oh well, water under the bridge. And we're better off that McDickface bailed on us anyway b/c he's proven again in LAV that he's a horrible coach (can't believe he still has a job there).

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 259944)
Yeah, I agree.

Most people (not all) would try to put their best foot forward in an interview and try to smooth over any rough patches.


I think where Ballard went wrong with that hire was trusting his agent too much. Remember that Ballard's agent also represented McVisor. I would bet that Ballard asked his agent some questions to gather some intel about McVisor and was expecting candid feedback. Anyways the agent cut ties with McVisor after that stunt.

Didn't know that about his agent. Shame on that dude for fucking Ballard over like that.

ChoppedWood 02-12-2023 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 259913)
Werner was a Grigs draft pick.

Well shit- who was the terrible white DE that never did shit that always got PT and everyone could see he was atrocious- but Polian?

IndyNorm 02-12-2023 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 259992)
Well shit- who was the terrible white DE that never did shit that always got PT and everyone could see he was atrocious- but Polian?

Josh Thomas?

ChoppedWood 02-12-2023 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 259993)
Josh Thomas?

Bang- yep, thank you- oh man he was so trash and just kept getting PT no matter how bad he sucked. I always figured he must have wed Polian's daughter or some shit.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 02-13-2023 08:37 AM

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/sta...00137541386241

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Eagles offensive coordinator Shane Steichen is scheduled to fly to Indianapolis this afternoon, when he is expected to finalize his deal to become the Colts’ next head coach, per source.

Oldcolt 02-13-2023 11:35 AM

Looks like Steichen is going to be an idiot and take the job. He has worked with multiple different types of QBs. All of them have progressed under his tutelage. It makes me think that Richardson is a distinct possibility. Physically he is the only qb in this draft that can compare with Mahones/Allen. It would be a huge gamble but any of these guys are gambles. And Ballard does love physical freaks. 6. If Steichen believes he can get the best out of Richardson it would take time but.......


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