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1965southpaw 08-21-2017 03:09 PM

JMV reporting Morris has been promoted on the depth chart
 
......to number 2. Tolzien is still number 1. SMH

Colt Classic 08-21-2017 03:48 PM

Tolzien brings grit--and a higher draft pick.

Brylok 08-21-2017 05:09 PM

He needs to get some game time with the 1s and 2s. Being promoted doesn't mean shit if he's with 3s and 4s. We've already seen what Tolzien can do.

omahacolt 08-21-2017 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 21706)
He needs to get some game time with the 1s and 2s. Being promoted doesn't mean shit if he's with 3s and 4s. We've already seen what Tolzien can do.

and we have wasted 2 games to see what the rookie could do. pagano seriously has no clue what he is doing. unless there is some behind the scenes stuff we don't know about. which i doubt

DrSpaceman 08-21-2017 05:44 PM

Tolzien should be 3, or just cut, ideally.

No idea what they see in him that makes them think he can even be a back up in this league.

omahacolt 08-21-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 21726)
Tolzien should be 3, or just cut, ideally.

No idea what they see in him that makes them think he can even be a back up in this league.

i thought he looked like a decent backup when we played the steelers last year.

i don't go crazy about preseason qb play too much but man has he looked bad.

apballin 08-21-2017 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 21707)
and we have wasted 2 games to see what the rookie could do. pagano seriously has no clue what he is doing. unless there is some behind the scenes stuff we don't know about. which i doubt

Obviously Ballard wants all of Grigson's guys gone

DrSpaceman 08-21-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21754)
Obviously Ballard wants all of Grigson's guys gone

And rightly so, because they suck, mostly

And that includes Pagano

Maniac 08-22-2017 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21754)
Obviously Ballard wants all of Grigson's guys gone

Hilton and Kelly included? No, I think Ballard just wants the crap players gone.

FatDT 08-22-2017 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 21754)
Obviously Ballard wants all of Grigson's guys gone

When did you become so stupid?

apballin 08-22-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JesusChrist (Post 21786)
Hilton and Kelly included? No, I think Ballard just wants the crap players gone.

Cmon not the obvious guys ofcourse, but Langford? Dorsett on the trade block?

Langford was a solid player that was consistent on the field and cut for a failed physical?? GTFO that's some Grigson shit right there

He was notorious for cutting guys for failed physical/IR BS Boom Herron come to mind

Butter 08-22-2017 07:24 PM

They need to clear the deck and bring in all new QBs outside of luck and maybe Morris for giggles. If there is any chance Luck misses the opener they should be considering RG3 or Kaepernick even at this point, even if they suck balls. For a game or 3 they might get us 1 or 2 wins to give us a chance. Not sure what else better is out there yet. What we have now is a steaming pile of 1st overall draft pick.

omahacolt 08-22-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 21906)
They need to clear the deck and bring in all new QBs outside of luck and maybe Morris for giggles. If there is any chance Luck misses the opener they should be considering RG3 or Kaepernick even at this point, even if they suck balls. For a game or 3 they might get us 1 or 2 wins to give us a chance. Not sure what else better is out there yet. What we have now is a steaming pile of 1st overall draft pick.

I disagree

At this point we roll with who we have. Let them fall where they may

YDFL Commish 08-22-2017 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 21923)
I disagree

At this point we roll with who we have. Let them fall where they may

You don't roll with Tolzien. Maybe Morris, but not Tolzien.

Tolzien is the checkdown king and refuses to throw the ball down the field.

I just want a backup QB to Luck who isn't afraid or incapable of throwing the ball down the field.

omahacolt 08-23-2017 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 21925)
You don't roll with Tolzien. Maybe Morris, but not Tolzien.

Tolzien is the checkdown king and refuses to throw the ball down the field.

I just want a backup QB to Luck who isn't afraid or incapable of throwing the ball down the field.

I haven't seen tolzien enough to make that statement. But you roll with whoever it is as backup.

testcase448 08-23-2017 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 21906)
Kaepernick even at this point, even if they suck balls. .

never

sherck 08-28-2017 08:57 AM

As if we needed the stats to show us what our lying eyes are telling us:

In 7 preseason games from 2016 and 2017:

28 drives / 8 TD, 4 FG, 14 punts / Morris (2 turnovers)
30 drives / 3 TD, 4 FG, 17 punts / Tolzien (6 turnovers)

06 3-and-outs in 28 drives / 21.4% / Morris
12 3-and-outs in 30 drives / 40.0% / Tolzien

112 attempts / 75 completions / 67.0% / 879 yards / 7.84 yards per attempt / 5 TD / 1 INT / 101.7 QBR / Morris
091 attempts / 60 completions / 66.0% / 607 yards / 6.67 yards per attempt / 2 TD / 2 INT / 083.0 QBR / Tolzien

Granted, Tolzien was typically playing against the "1s" and Morris has been playing against the "2s & 3s"......

I really hope Morris opens this week's preseason game and gets at least 1 or 2 series with the starters. Put one more data point on the chart before making the call on who to start against the Rams.

Walk Worthy,


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