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Oldcolt 08-18-2021 01:37 PM

Strachan
 
This guy appears to be the real deal. I know people will say it is to early but I am on this bandwagon big time. The guy hasn't played football for over a year and even then it was Div II. He looked great in preseason game, going up high to snag that throw was something innate. Can't teach that and to find it in a 6 5 225 wide receiver is amazing. He runs routes pretty well for someone with almost no experience, is fast and catches the ball with his hands. On top of that it is reported he is getting reps with the first string. So glad we didn't go for any of those high priced free agents.

Hoopsdoc 08-18-2021 02:23 PM

I was just as impressed with Patmon.

Oldcolt 08-18-2021 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 199314)
I was just as impressed with Patmon.

I was impressed but in a different way. Strachan seems like a different animal, one that if he continues to develop could be a game changer. Patmon looked great but not quite as athletic to me. I want to keep them both. They wouldn't make it through waivers. It is great that these are going to be difficult decisions, something we haven't really had for years.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-18-2021 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 199314)
I was just as impressed with Patmon.

The Colts must really like the potential of Patmon as well - they kept him "protected" on the 53 man roster all last season - even when he was listed as Inactive for almost every game day.

Chromeburn 08-18-2021 03:26 PM

Hilton
Cambell
Pittman
Pascal
________
Dulin - special teams ace

Leaves about one spot if the have six.

TheMugwump 08-18-2021 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 199325)
Hilton
Cambell
Pittman
Pascal
________
Dulin - special teams ace

Leaves about one spot if the have six.

Not sure Dulin makes it, but if he does, I think they keep seven (Strachan and Patmon as well as the four above). Then I hope they stash Vaughns and Harris, and maybe Black, on the PS. Not sure Harris makes it throught the waiver process, but Vaughns and Black should.

Hoopsdoc 08-18-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 199325)
Hilton
Cambell
Pittman
Pascal
________
Dulin - special teams ace

Leaves about one spot if the have six.

I’m not sure Pascal is 100 percent secure. Depends on how much they like Patmon and Strachan.

To be clear, I’m not saying Pascal gets cut-I just think it’s a possibility.

daedge 08-18-2021 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 199318)
The Colts must really like the potential of Patmon as well - they kept him "protected" on the 53 man roster all last season - even when he was listed as Inactive for almost every game day.

I really liked the Patmon pick last year. Obviously, he wasn't helped by the diluted off-season and no pre-season games, but he is someone I'd hate to see let go. That said, Strachan excites me even more.

As for Pascal, no way they cut him.

Oldcolt 08-18-2021 05:42 PM

Both Strachan and Patmon were tried as gunners today in practice. They had trouble getting off the line according to Indy Star. To me this means that they want to keep both of these guys. I hope so

Racehorse 08-18-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 199344)
Both Strachan and Patmon were tried as gunners today in practice. They had trouble getting off the line according to Indy Star. To me this means that they want to keep both of these guys. I hope so

They seem to have a much higher ceiling than Dulin.

Chromeburn 08-18-2021 06:02 PM

Pascal is making the 53. Most ive read is that Dulin should as well. Those last spots are really specials teams guys.

I don’t know if Strachn and Patmon would see the field unless there were injuries. Hilton and Pascals contracts are up next year though.

JAFF 08-18-2021 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 199331)
I’m not sure Pascal is 100 percent secure. Depends on how much they like Patmon and Strachan.

To be clear, I’m not saying Pascal gets cut-I just think it’s a possibility.

Pascal made big plays and scores all last year. He is not getting cut. Hes the one sure player.

Luck4Reich 08-18-2021 06:52 PM

Strachan is is getting first team reps now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sta...-training-camp

Also saw he is getting noticed by a lot of older star WRs.... Reggie being one of them that are impressed.

Chromeburn 08-18-2021 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 199356)
Strachan is is getting first team reps now.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sta...-training-camp

Also saw he is getting noticed by a lot of older star WRs.... Reggie being one of them that are impressed.

Apparently he is Michael Irvin’s god son

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-19-2021 01:58 PM

With all the hype about Strachan, someone asked Zak Keefer what he still needs to work on.

Keefer relayed that question to WR Coach Mike Groh and this was his answer. Not a surprising development need for a small school rookie.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1428412995248472067

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Asked Mike Groh about this today. He's had a good camp, but his command of the scheme and all of his routes will need to improve, and he's only learned 1 WR position (Reich likes his guys to know all of them). "Still wait and see," Groh said. "We're all hopeful."

rcubed 08-19-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 199400)
With all the hype about Strachan, someone asked Zak Keefer what he still needs to work on.

Keefer relayed that question to WR Coach Mike Groh and this was his answer. Not a surprising development need for a small school rookie.

https://twitter.com/zkeefer/status/1428412995248472067

but...but...but... I read he is the second coming of randy moss!

apballin 08-19-2021 06:10 PM

Practice squad maybe? Hold on to him in case of an injury

Butter 08-19-2021 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 199435)
Practice squad maybe? Hold on to him in case of an injury

I am not sure he would make it to the PS, a guy with his measurables and looking decent pre-season? We will know a lot more after a few more preseason games, but if he's seeing time with the 1's Reich must see something in him.

Luck4Reich 08-19-2021 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by apballin (Post 199435)
Practice squad maybe? Hold on to him in case of an injury

He would get snatched up so fast and leave us pissed off when he is killing it for another team..... I get all the blah blah blah... Another hyped guy like Cain.... No this guy is getting noticed by coaches and ex players and current players.... The guy is going to be good with a chance of greatness..

Oldcolt 08-19-2021 08:11 PM

Neither Patmon nor Stachan would make it through waivers. Says a whole lot about how this roster is being built. Tough decisions

Luck4Reich 08-19-2021 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 199443)
Neither Patmon nor Stachan would make it through waivers. Says a whole lot about how this roster is being built. Tough decisions

We will have 1-2 WR cuts that will sign with another team.. mark it! Good position to be in compared to past few years... The staff put in some work looking for WR talent.

YDFL Commish 08-19-2021 09:11 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if we trade a WR before the season starts. Granted it will probably be for no more than a 4th pick at the very most. But I could see it happening.

Pascal would be my best guess.

Oldcolt 08-19-2021 09:16 PM

I hope we don't trade Pascal. He is a tough SOB who helps set the tone with his blocking etc. I love players like him.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2021 09:24 PM

I didn’t realize Pascal is only 26. Seems like he’s been around forever.

Hoopsdoc 08-19-2021 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 199442)
He would get snatched up so fast and leave us pissed off when he is killing it for another team..... I get all the blah blah blah... Another hyped guy like Cain.... No this guy is getting noticed by coaches and ex players and current players.... The guy is going to be good with a chance of greatness..

Strachan, you notice him. You notice him right away. He is one big fast dude.

Cain was the definition of a jag.

Voosh 08-19-2021 11:40 PM

I think Strachan makes the team. I've seen nothing but positive reports from the beat writers and even Reggie Wayne has taken notice.

Butter 08-19-2021 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 199449)
I wouldn't be surprised if we trade a WR before the season starts. Granted it will probably be for no more than a 4th pick at the very most. But I could see it happening.

Pascal would be my best guess.

I have been wondering about that as well, would rather flip a guy for a day 3 that let him get snatched off waivers before he can hit the PS.

JAFF 08-20-2021 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 199456)
I have been wondering about that as well, would rather flip a guy for a day 3 that let him get snatched off waivers before he can hit the PS.

Pascal is the one WR other than Hilton who has shown he has the ability to make plays in games that count. And I believe he can return punts. They trade him, there ia a lot of unproven talent with a new Qb, (who ever plays) and a big question about the left side of the O line.

Chromeburn 08-20-2021 07:35 AM

We aren’t trading Pascal. He was our number 1 receiver at times last year and the only guy who really stayed healthy. Strachan seems to have the edge for the last spot. Then they have to decide if they want to keep Dulin or Patmon. ST coach will likely want Dulin.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-20-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 199344)
Both Strachan and Patmon were tried as gunners today in practice. They had trouble getting off the line according to Indy Star. To me this means that they want to keep both of these guys. I hope so


The Colts could keep both Strachan and Patmon with neither in the gunner role (although that would certainly help).

If you look at last year's opening day roster, the Colts kept 6 WR's and 7 LB's. They could flip those two numbers this year and keep 7 WR's and 6 LB's. Considering that LB Anthony Walker signed with the Browns in the off season, there is sort of an opening to reach that sort of decision.

Chromeburn 08-20-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 199469)
The Colts could keep both Strachan and Patmon with neither in the gunner role (although that would certainly help).

If you look at last year's opening day roster, the Colts kept 6 WR's and 7 LB's. They could flip those two numbers this year and keep 7 WR's and 6 LB's. Considering that LB Anthony Walker signed with the Browns in the off season, there is sort of an opening to reach that sort of decision.

LB is also a big source of special teamers. Also don’t forget Ballard wants to keep more D and O linemen because of the extended season. Here is Bowen’s 53 guess. And I agree with it also.

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sp...season-game-2/

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-20-2021 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 199471)
LB is also a big source of special teamers. Also don’t forget Ballard wants to keep more D and O linemen because of the extended season. Here is Bowen’s 53 guess. And I agree with it also.

https://www.1075thefan.com/kevins-sp...season-game-2/


Bowen agreed with me and only projected 6 LB's on his final roster.

I don't see the Colts keeping 10 O Linemen. Yes, there are injuries. Week 1 availability is uncertain at this time. And the Colts need to make sure that there is enough depth available to play in the first game in case of an in game injury.

However, the Colts could elevate 2 players from the Practice Squad to the game day roster to supplement the 53 man roster. I guess I am already envisioning the Colts elevating 2 OL in Week 1.

The final number of O Linemen will likely depend on how Ryan Kelly and Big Q respond over the next 10 days or so.

Butter 08-20-2021 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 199462)
Pascal is the one WR other than Hilton who has shown he has the ability to make plays in games that count. And I believe he can return punts. They trade him, there ia a lot of unproven talent with a new Qb, (who ever plays) and a big question about the left side of the O line.

I never mentioned trading Pascal. Commish did,

Oldcolt 08-20-2021 10:20 AM

I'm with those who want us to keep 7 WR. We need Dulin for ST. Both Strachan and Patmon could turn into long term answers at WR, the key term being could. I doubt either makes it thru waivers so I see both on the 53 man squad. I have a modicum of hope that one of them will turn out to be a player.

Chromeburn 08-20-2021 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 199476)
Bowen agreed with me and only projected 6 LB's.

I don't see the Colts keeping 10 O Lineman. Yes, there are injuries. Week 1 availability is uncertain at this time. And the Colts need to make sure that there is enough depth available to play in the first game in case of an in game injury.

However, the Colts could elevate 2 players from the Practice Squad to the game day roster to supplement the 53 man roster. I guess I am already envisioning the Colts elevating 2 OL in Week 1.

The final number of O Lineman will probably depend on how Ryan Kelly and Big Q respond over the next 10 days or so.

LT is the biggest issue. We didn’t adequately address the depth there. But I will say this is pretty difficult to do. No team has good depth at tackle. They are too in demand. You would have to spend a high draft pick on the position to really get some depth. Still we will have to see who gets cut out there. Might be able to find someone.

Skai Moore is a potential 7th at LB. he has always been a good ST player and adequate backup.

AlwaysSunnyinIndy 08-20-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 199479)
Skai Moore is a potential 7th at LB. he has always been a good ST player and adequate backup.

I agree that Skai Moore contributed a lot in 2018 in his first year with the Colts and can be a good ST player.

However, he didn't make the final roster in his second year and was on the practice squad for most of 2019. He played in one game that season with a total of 7 snaps.

He then opted out of 2020 due to COVID.

I would think it would be a fairly safe bet for him to clear waivers and the Colts could sign him back to the practice squad.

Although there is the added wrinkle that a lot of former coaches and staff are now on the Eagles coaching staff. They may look to bolster the Eagles roster with some familiar faces who have already bought into the scheme.

rcubed 08-20-2021 12:03 PM

If they have to choose between patmon, dulin, and strachan, my guess is they try to get patmon onto the practice squad and hope no one grabs him.

Oldcolt 08-20-2021 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 199489)
If they have to choose between patmon, dulin, and strachan, my guess is they try to get patmon onto the practice squad and hope no one grabs him.

Weren't the Colts so concerned that Patmon wouldn't make it through wavers last year that they kept him on the 53 all year?

rcubed 08-20-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 199503)
Weren't the Colts so concerned that Patmon wouldn't make it through wavers last year that they kept him on the 53 all year?

I think so, but wasnt he also inactive for every game? if it comes down to it and they have to try to stash a WR (or cut), who's it gonna be?

Oldcolt 08-20-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 199504)
I think so, but wasnt he also inactive for every game? if it comes down to it and they have to try to stash a WR (or cut), who's it gonna be?

I hope they keep all three but if one has to go, and both Patmon and Strachan continue to impress, I'd say Dulin. He isn't going to be here in 5 years and if Patmon and Stachan hit they will be here long term. It is a great problem to have, one we will be having much more of in the future, hopefully.


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