Wentz trade coming soon
 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...on-sources-say

Big question is will Philly trade him to Colts or Bears?

The higher bidder, which probably won’t be us.

And I'm good with that.

Looks like the Bears are the front runners:

https://twitter.com/NatalieEgenolf/s...35563585925123

Yikes. Hard pass if that’s the compensation.

Count on the bears to do something stupid

Bears, let it be the Bears.

The Bears are really stupid.

Better them than us.

Wow, that would be incredibly stupid. Well, KC traded up from 22 to 10 to get Mahomes, based on the way these QB markets are going, a deal like that to grab Mac Jones might be the best option. Bring Brisket back on a 1 year team friendly deal as vet competition and see if Jones can win the job outright. That's starting to look like the best idea based on these outrageous QB prices.

Also seeing reports that Foles might come to Indy as part of Wentz trade to Bears. Foles would be a perfect veteran placeholder for a rookie QB acquired in a trade up. I hope Ballard likes Mac Jones.

Good

Ballard shows patience, if he doesn't get the QB this year Ballard is still in a good position. He doesn't throw around draft picks. Pace in Chicago is gone if nothing good happens this year. He throws around draft picks like they are nothing (look at what we paid for Buckner and what he paid for Mack- admittingly Mack is worth more but not that much). I don't see a universe where we outbid this guy...thank god for Ballard.

Foles has been terrible everywhere except for his half season magic when he won the superbowl. Now clearly Reich was his co-ordinator back then, but personally I don't want Foles anywhere near a Colts roster.

To me, acquiring Foles would be an indication that they plan to trade up and draft a QB. That would be the only positive to it IMO. I've never thought of Foles as anything more than a journeyman placeholder.

That said, there are no good options at this point. Trades for existing QBs would all yield either aging stars who would be a bandaid similar to Rivers or damaged goods that we'd have to trust that the front office sees something they believe they can fix. The top of the free agent market is Jameis Winston, who falls into the aforementioned damaged goods category. The draft will require a trade up, which will consume next year's 1 as well, and possibly more picks. But if we look at Ballard's most recent team prior to the Colts, they have done pretty well with their trade up for a QB they liked. A similar trade by the Colts may be the best option at this point.

Kinda hopin Carr in Vegas comes available. Might be a good fir for us given all the other options.

ESPN Adam Schefter
 

Adam Schefter on the upcoming trade:

http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=30853073

Bears or Colts??????

Well, if Wentz comes cheap enough, we'll see if Reich can turn him around.

Houston is not taking calls for Watson. That locker room will be full of cancer.

Good for the colts

They will once they realize he's not going to change his mind.

Once he sees the fines he'll be back on the sidelines

Patience bdb.

Yep, he has millions nd millions of reasons to not hold out.

What if he would legitimately rather retire than play another down for the Texans? It happened before when Carson Palmer did it to Cincinnati. They can't fine him if he's retired. The Texans would be smart to trade him now before they lose all their leverage. Of course, as a Colts fan, I'm glad to see that they are yet again making the stupid decision. I hope they end up trading him for less than what the Bengals got for Palmer after they stare him down and are forced to blink first.

I don't think Watson has the balls to do it. He'll eventually show up. He would have been more vocal about his strategy otherwise, imo. Especially considering it is the age of social media. I also don't remember Palmer being considered as good as Watson, nor as durable. I could be wrong about that.

I think his best play going forward is to just take it easy for a couple of years and see what Houston does. Sit out for the smallest injury, wait for his contract year, and then put everything he has back into it to try and win another contract with another team.

Perhaps by that point Cal McNair will accept his incompetence (or perhaps become competent), Houston will be in a better place, and he will choose to stay.

Sure, he can be back on the sidelines, but if he's unhappy and creates problems, then what good does that do? If you can get 3 first round picks for him and maybe another qb, then do it. They already ruined the franchise, might as well rebuild.

Oh I agree, But the Texans are saying they wont trade him, if so he is not going to sit out if they don't and lose all that money.

They should trade him for sure

https://youtu.be/OD2qmLoMh4k

Brett Kollman examines wentz


From just looking at lowlights. My sense is Wentz has little feel for pressure when looking downfield. He has good escapability. But he also gets tackled and fumbles when he does. Also he goes to his first read too much especially when covered. If he goes through his progressions, he has other receivers wide open. Could check down more. His deep ball is not very accurate. Reich says he values decision making and accuracy, but I’m not seeing it here.

That is a damn depressing video for anyone hoping to have Wentz as our QB. He has a ton of issues to fix. You wonder how his head is after a year like that. Any confidence he has would seem delusional. None of this is news to Ballard and Reich. You would have to have a lot of confidence in your staffs ability to work with the guy to bring him on. Will be interesting. It is hard to see how Philadelphia gets anything near what they are asking.

You can fix mechanical issues with a long off season. But the decision making worries me. He is trying to compensate for an average roster. But still those tries are against his reads and progressions.

5 years in, those mechanical issues should not still be an issue.

These guys have an interesting take on this whole Wentz thing. They think Chicago makes no sense whatsoever for Wentz. Feel like Ballard knows this and won't be pushed into overpaying for him. Interesting take.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-carson-wentz/

Every QB has a break down in mechanics and they must keep working on them. You have to keep practicing to keep them sharp. Like a muscle you keep exercising. But those are pretty bad. You could blame the lack of off season. But you can work on your throw anytime without involving anyone.

Let him go to the Bears.

I'm betting that Mac Jones is a bust. Alabama QB's don't do shit in the NFL. Look at Tua, and all the prior Alabama QB's. Everything is so perfect for them at Alabama, not the same in the NFL. The only QB I am almost certain will be really good in this years draft is Lawrence.

Joe Namath is the most overrated QB in NFL history. Just look at his numbers ffs. He's all swag and a fur coat.

If you think that, then you haven't watched his tape. You can dock him if you'd like for having all the talent around him, but then you have to explain why every coach also thought he was the best QB at the Senior Bowl and had nothing but positive to say about him. Watch him vs. Georgia if you want an example of him succeeding under adverse conditions. He doesn't have clean pockets all night and college open receivers on every play in that game. Very early in the game, he gets drilled by Ojulari, who is a free rusher on the play, but manages to step into a deep shot on a post to Waddle who takes it 90+ yards to the house. Several other times he steps up into collapsing pockets and takes shots to deliver throws where and when they need to be. The anticipation and processing speed with which he works is elite.

Also, I don't think people who think Lawrence is can't miss have watched his tape, either. He certainly has the physical tools to potentially be the best QB in the NFL for a long period of time, but don't let anyone fool you into believing there isn't a bust floor there. He's going to have to get much better at reading defenses in the NFL and throwing with anticipation if he wants to succeed in the NFL and have a long career that isn't cut short by injuries from excessive running.

Totally agree, if not for his SB win against the Colts he wouldn't be in the hall of fame. His numbers are pathetic.

Well, we will just have to disagree Dam. Time will tell.

At least he represents the Jets with class and respectability in his old age.