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jasperhobbs 01-01-2021 07:58 AM

Quentin Nelson permanent left tackle
 
It sure would solve a lot of problems if Nelson became the permanent left tackle. Much easier to find a decent guard than a quality left tackle. I would think big Q is athletic enough to play the position. Anyone else agree?

JAFF 01-01-2021 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181452)
It sure would solve a lot of problems if Nelson became the permanent left tackle. Much easier to find a decent guard than a quality left tackle. I would think big Q is athletic enough to play the position. Anyone else agree?

Hes the best athlete on the line. They are going to spend huge money to keep him, at either spot, so money isnt an issue.

It will also depend on the draft, free agency, and Castonzo.

Oldcolt 01-01-2021 11:01 AM

I'm good with him playing tackle in a pinch and for a few games. Do not want to move him from guard permanently. One of his best attributes is his incredible instincts in helping out others on the line. We would lose that ability plus he would not pull as effectively from the tackle-he is now the best pulling guard in football.

rcubed 01-01-2021 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 181464)
I'm good with him playing tackle in a pinch and for a few games. Do not want to move him from guard permanently. One of his best attributes is his incredible instincts in helping out others on the line. We would lose that ability plus he would not pull as effectively from the tackle-he is now the best pulling guard in football.


Agree. I would rather find a true LT and keep Q at guard.


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Chaka 01-01-2021 01:56 PM

Here’s an older Reddit discussion on the different skills sets and physical attributes needed for guard and tackle. Lots of good stuff, and might explain why although Nelson is an an outstanding guard, he may not be so great at tackle:

http://https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/...kles_in_the_o/

Racehorse 01-01-2021 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 181485)
Agree. I would rather find a true LT and keep Q at guard.


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I agree, but his versatility will be helpful going forward.

Chromeburn 01-01-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181452)
It sure would solve a lot of problems if Nelson became the permanent left tackle. Much easier to find a decent guard than a quality left tackle. I would think big Q is athletic enough to play the position. Anyone else agree?

I got in an argument on here with someone that he could play LT and perhaps we should play him there. Think it was Omaha.

It easier to find a guard than a tackle. How good could he be at the position? But would we be replacing an all pro guard with an average to good guard. Then perhaps only have an average to good tackle at the position. LTs are usually taller longer and leaner. I think I lean towards trying to draft a replacement.

omahacolt 01-02-2021 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 181540)
I got in an argument on here with someone that he could play LT and perhaps we should play him there. Think it was Omaha.

It easier to find a guard than a tackle. How good could he be at the position? But would we be replacing an all pro guard with an average to good guard. Then perhaps only have an average to good tackle at the position. LTs are usually taller longer and leaner. I think I lean towards trying to draft a replacement.

Probably was me. Nelson isn’t your long term solution at tackle imo.

Chromeburn 01-02-2021 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 181555)
Probably was me. Nelson isn’t your long term solution at tackle imo.

Nope, I would keep him inside.

YDFL Commish 01-02-2021 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 181460)
Hes the best athlete on the line. They are going to spend huge money to keep him, at either spot, so money isnt an issue.

It will also depend on the draft, free agency, and Castonzo.

Will peeps stop saying that Q is the best athlete
on the line. It's simply not true.

Braden Smith is the best athlete on the line and his combine numbers prove that out. Hence his seamless
transition from OG to OT.

jasperhobbs 01-02-2021 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 181576)
Will peeps stop saying that Q is the best athlete
on the line. It's simply not true.

Braden Smith is the best athlete on the line and his combine numbers prove that out. Hence his seamless
transition from OG to OT.

I think Braden Smith is a natural guard and would be better there.

YDFL Commish 01-03-2021 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181578)
I think Braden Smith is a natural guard and would be better there.

Thank you for being wrong.

Chromeburn 01-03-2021 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181578)
I think Braden Smith is a natural guard and would be better there.

That’s what the front office thought when they drafted him. He’s now the highest rated oline on the team at RT.

jasperhobbs 01-03-2021 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181578)
I think Braden Smith is a natural guard and would be better there.

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 181602)
Thank you for being wrong.

And what makes you an expert? It has been stated, Smith is a natural guard and mostly played that position at Auburn.

JAFF 01-03-2021 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181651)
And what makes you an expert? It has been stated, Smith is a natural guard and mostly played that position at Auburn.

RESULTS at the nfl level

jasperhobbs 01-03-2021 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 181656)
RESULTS at the nfl level

He might be a pro bowl guard given the chance.

JAFF 01-03-2021 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181668)
He might be a pro bowl guard given the chance.

We already a pro bowl guard and have not made the playoffs. The TEAM needs him at RT, where he has produce excellent results. You play people where they are needed.

jasperhobbs 01-03-2021 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 181671)
We already a pro bowl guard and have not made the playoffs. The TEAM needs him at RT, where he has produce excellent results. You play people where they are needed.

I agree. The point I was making is he might be a more natural guard and much better than Glowinski.

JAFF 01-03-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181677)
I agree. The point I was making is he might be a more natural guard and much better than Glowinski.

And who do you play at RT if you move him? There isnt an option RIGHT NOW.

I dont want Nelson at LT, but the team is running out of options. If (fill in the blank) gets hurt today, who is next up for LT?

The reality is that the Colts need to shop for an offensive tackle, regardless of any decision from castonzo. Moving Smith solves a problem they dont have.

jasperhobbs 01-03-2021 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 181696)
And who do you play at RT if you move him? There isnt an option RIGHT NOW.

I dont want Nelson at LT, but the team is running out of options. If (fill in the blank) gets hurt today, who is next up for LT?

The reality is that the Colts need to shop for an offensive tackle, regardless of any decision from castonzo. Moving Smith solves a problem they dont have.

I never said they move Smith right now. The season is over or will be over even if they make the playoffs. They won't go far. The middle of the line would be phenomenal with Nelson, Kelly and Smith. Glowinski is an average guard.

The problem is we would need 2 tackles as Castonzo is probably done. Might need 2 anyway as they might not be able to keep Smith when his contract is up. Kelly already got paid and Nelson is going to be the highest paid guard ever. Not sure they can devote that much money to OLine and keep Smith.

JAFF 01-03-2021 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jasperhobbs (Post 181704)
I never said they move Smith right now. The season is over or will be over even if they make the playoffs. They won't go far. The middle of the line would be phenomenal with Nelson, Kelly and Smith. Glowinski is an average guard.

The problem is we would need 2 tackles as Castonzo is probably done. Might need 2 anyway as they might not be able to keep Smith when his contract is up. Kelly already got paid and Nelson is going to be the highest paid guard ever. Not sure they can devote that much money to OLine and keep Smith.

Do you know why its better to pay OT than guards? Its because its a passing league. If you cant pass pro on the edges against the best D players (DEs), who cares what you have inside?

Oh, and about the money, it doesnt matter. If a team wants to keep someone, they figure it out

jasperhobbs 01-03-2021 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 181712)
Do you know why its better to pay OT than guards? Its because its a passing league. If you cant pass pro on the edges against the best D players (DEs), who cares what you have inside?

Oh, and about the money, it doesnt matter. If a team wants to keep someone, they figure it out

I know tackles get paid and why but I guarantee Nelson will be making more than most tackles when his contract comes up. Point being, guards get paid big bucks now and Nelson is going to raise the bar considerably. He is that good.


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