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Brylok 04-26-2019 10:55 PM

ABC broadcast in central time zone didn't show 1 second of that Colts pick. The 2 new year's eve broadcast people kept talking and then it went to the desk guys. The name was just shown on the left side of the screen graphic. What happened?

smitty46953 04-26-2019 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 118377)
ABC broadcast in central time zone didn't show 1 second of that Colts pick. The 2 new year's eve broadcast people kept talking and then it went to the desk guys. The name was just shown on the left side of the screen graphic. What happened?

ESPN2 better coverage than ABC tonite :cool:

smitty46953 04-26-2019 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 118377)
ABC broadcast in central time zone didn't show 1 second of that Colts pick. The 2 new year's eve broadcast people kept talking and then it went to the desk guys. The name was just shown on the left side of the screen graphic. What happened?

https://twitter.com/FanDuel/status/1121971137880252416

Hoopsdoc 04-26-2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118373)
With the 89th overall pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, the #Colts are selecting LB Bobby Okereke :cool:

Ballard is killing this draft. Okereke runs a 4:58 40. Along with Banogu, the LB corp got a HUGE influx of talent and athleticism.

JAFF 04-26-2019 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 118375)
LB good at covering TEs

So they say.

Eagle scout, Stanford guy

GoBigBlue88 04-26-2019 11:01 PM

Main takeaway from Colts draft: they want a defense that is more multiple. More athletic LBs, more ability to press on boundary. That doesn't mean they're going man, but they want ability to play more man on outside and press situationally. Didn't really have that last year.

Also when I asked if it was crazy to suggest Colts might look to upgrade over Walker after the KC game, well, I think they're trying to.

Luck4Reich 04-26-2019 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118374)
Honestly never heard of this guy :cool:

Future Hall of Famer.

Brylok 04-26-2019 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118379)

Jesus. McAfee has spent too much time with professional wrestling shit. Forced and awful

Butter 04-26-2019 11:03 PM

It looks like the Colts are going to get much more interesting on D, Okereke looks to be a much more Athletic MLB who can cover TEs and if what Banogu says is true he will be all over the place. Walker maybe shifts to SLB/MLB on run downs. This could be an exciting D. I am still a bit concerned about Saftey unless Geathers can stay healthy, hope to see at least depth pick tomorrow.

WaynesWorld87 04-26-2019 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 118217)
Y'all are smart as hell. I don't know anything about any of these guys, so thanks for keeping me informed on what we're getting. I like what I'm hearing so far. Much different than the Grigs days

Same here. I don't even try to pretend I know a thing about these guys coming out of college and how their game should translate to the NFL.

I just use the "Freaks Pulse-o-Meter" to set my happiness meter for the draft. And the last two years the Freaks Pulse-o-Meter has been MUCH more positive than it was in the Grigs days.

smitty46953 04-26-2019 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 118384)
Jesus. McAfee has spent too much time with professional wrestling shit. Forced and awful

I just liked the jabs at Titans from both Reggie and Pat :cool:

FatDT 04-26-2019 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 118385)
It looks like the Colts are going to get much more interesting on D, Okereke looks to be a much more Athletic MLB who can cover TEs and if what Banogu says is true he will be all over the place. Walker maybe shifts to SLB/MLB on run downs. This could be an exciting D. I am still a bit concerned about Saftey unless Geathers can stay healthy, hope to see at least depth pick tomorrow.

Maybe a FA pickup is in the future? Eric Berry is a free agent.

Butter 04-26-2019 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 118382)
Also when I asked if it was crazy to suggest Colts might look to upgrade over Walker after the KC game, well, I think they're trying to.

Apparently not. I like it he looks kind of like the MLB version of Leonard who is reportedly good in coverage, which was not our LBs strength. I like Walker and can see him still having a place here, but this is a solid upgrade I think.

Butter 04-26-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 118388)
Maybe a FA pickup is in the future? Eric Berry is a free agent.

Could well be, I have little doubt Ballard is going to do something in regards to Saftey.

Butter 04-26-2019 11:12 PM

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Bobby Okereke's most similar comparison athletically?

.......

........

Ready?

......

Darius Leonard.
https://twitter.com/TylerDBrooke/sta...70715614380032
The chart is in the tweet.

smitty46953 04-26-2019 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 118390)
Could well be, I have little doubt Ballard is going to do something in regards to Saftey.

Some Safety's still left;

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S FLA
Deionte Thompson S BAMA
Amani Hooker S IOWA
Jaquan Johnson S MIAMI
Mike Bell S FRESNO
:cool:

Luck4Reich 04-26-2019 11:15 PM

If we did add another Leonard.... holy shit this is going to get really fun next season.

Butter 04-26-2019 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Luck4Reich (Post 118399)
If we did add another Leonard.... holy shit this is going to get really fun next season.

Seriously doubt he will be as big an impact as Leonard, but if he is an upgrade over Walker and brings better coverage over the middle it is a great pick.

Hoopsdoc 04-26-2019 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 118388)
Maybe a FA pickup is in the future? Eric Berry is a free agent.

Berry is done. Totally done.

I give it a slight chance because of the shared history but all in all, I’d be shocked. He’s to old, to expensive, and to injury prone.

Better to draft a young guy with potential.

Luck4Reich 04-26-2019 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 118400)
Seriously doubt he will be as big an impact as Leonard, but if he is an upgrade over Walker and brings better coverage over the middle it is a great pick.

I dont think he will have same impact either but if hes an upgrade great pick.

smitty46953 04-26-2019 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118398)
Some Safety's still left;

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S FLA
Deionte Thompson S BAMA
Amani Hooker S IOWA
Jaquan Johnson S MIAMI
Mike Bell S FRESNO
:cool:

At WR, Hakeem Butler, Riley Ridley, Kelvin Harmon still available

smitty46953 04-26-2019 11:21 PM

Kinda nice not throwing shit after our picks as in years past :cool:

smitty46953 04-26-2019 11:25 PM

With the 101st pick the New England Patriots select West Virginia OT Yodny Cajuste :cool:

GoBigBlue88 04-26-2019 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 118400)
Seriously doubt he will be as big an impact as Leonard, but if he is an upgrade over Walker and brings better coverage over the middle it is a great pick.

Yeah I think that's the hope. More range and ability to run with TEs (Kelce KILLED Walker ... then again Kelce kills everyone). Probably more ability to rush the passer on delayed blitzes a la Leonard.

But it sounds like it's not a given Okereke is physical enough to be an every down guy. Just from what I'm reading. I haven't seen him play myself. So I'm considering sub package / matchup-specific for now.

Butter 04-26-2019 11:39 PM

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Ballard says Bobby Okereke can play all three LB spots. “He’ll compete, and he’ll get in and the best three will play.” #Colts

Butter 04-26-2019 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 118407)

But it sounds like it's not a given Okereke is physical enough to be an every down guy. Just from what I'm reading. I haven't seen him play myself. So I'm considering sub package / matchup-specific for now.

I understand that concern, is is a bit undersized and more athletic than strong it seems. Be interesting to see how he is used.

Coltsalr 04-26-2019 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118398)
Some Safety's still left;

Chauncey Gardner-Johnson S FLA
Deionte Thompson S BAMA
Amani Hooker S IOWA
Jaquan Johnson S MIAMI
Mike Bell S FRESNO
:cool:

I’m REALLY wondering why Gardner-Johnson is still there. I liked him a lot and thought he’d be defensible (albeit something of a reach) at #26.

That said, with them drafting Sin and already having Wilson/Moore/Desir, I’m wondering just what kind of formations this D is going to run.

smitty46953 04-26-2019 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 118410)
I’m REALLY wondering why Gardner-Johnson is still there. I liked him a lot and thought he’d be defensible (albeit something of a reach) at #26.

That said, with them drafting Sin and already having Wilson/Moore/Desir, I’m wondering just what kind of formations this D is going to run.

Ballard's presser he just said he is pretty comfortable with our safety's. Said Geathers is best he has been or something like that :cool:

Butter 04-26-2019 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118411)
Ballard's presser he just said he is pretty comfortable with our safety's. Said Geathers is best he has been or something like that :cool:

I hope so, I really like Geathers, but he has such injury bad luck.

Chromeburn 04-26-2019 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118411)
Ballard's presser he just said he is pretty comfortable with our safety's. Said Geathers is best he has been or something like that :cool:

Until he gets hurt again

Coltsalr 04-27-2019 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 118407)
Yeah I think that's the hope. More range and ability to run with TEs (Kelce KILLED Walker ... then again Kelce kills everyone). Probably more ability to rush the passer on delayed blitzes a la Leonard.

But it sounds like it's not a given Okereke is physical enough to be an every down guy. Just from what I'm reading. I haven't seen him play myself. So I'm considering sub package / matchup-specific for now.

Good eye, Ballard just compared Banogu to Jamie Collins (who I know you shared my intrigue on as an athletic freak at ILB).

Hopefully Banogu has his head on straight moreso. Collins was just a weirdo and it looks like his career might be over as a result (Ballard would have the opportunity to grab him right now and obviously hasn’t).

VeveJones007 04-27-2019 03:10 AM

To recap the day:

I love the Ya-Sin pick. Immediate upgrade at CB4 and potential CB1 in a couple years. A lot of growth potential there with a high floor. He’ll contribute this year.

Banogu is intriguing, but it worries me that they don’t have a more defined vision for his role. Seems like they like him and his athleticism and hope Eberflus can make it work. As I said, I’m intrigued, but this one has some bust potential. I feel the other picks have safer floors. As GBB said, this at least tells us they want to be more multiple, especially when coupled with the Ya-Sin pick. 2019 could be a de facto redshirt year.

Campbell is a dream fit for this offense. Reich must be giddy tonight. Also, don’t forget about the upgrade he provides in the return game. Love the value of getting him at 59. He’ll make a difference even if he doesn’t touch the ball (though Reich will make sure he gets 8-10 touches a game in 2019).

I really like Okereke. He’s likely LB2 is sub packages early and could definitely unseat Walker in 2020.

JAFF 04-27-2019 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 118409)
I understand that concern, is is a bit undersized and more athletic than strong it seems. Be interesting to see how he is used.

We had one of those a while back, Gary Brackett wasn't so bad.

Racehorse 04-27-2019 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118259)
Rosen traded to Cards :cool:

Traded him to themselves?

Luck4Reich 04-27-2019 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 118444)
Traded him to themselves?

They may be that stupid of late.:cool:

Racehorse 04-27-2019 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 118304)
His dog named "Chunks" ? :eek:

I had a girl tell me that she had been up all night blowing chunks. I laughed and she asked why I thought it was so funny. I told her my dog was named "Chunks". Everyone laughed but her.

Racehorse 04-27-2019 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 118380)
Ballard is killing this draft. Okereke runs a 4:58 40. Along with Banogu, the LB corp got a HUGE influx of talent and athleticism.

Almost 5 minutes to go 40 yards? I think I'd pass.

smitty46953 04-27-2019 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 118444)
Traded him to themselves?

opps :D

YDFL Commish 04-27-2019 09:27 AM

I don't get the hate in Walker.

I think that he did a great job in run defense. But yeah I can see them breaking Okerke in at SAM or nickel LB and then moving him to MIKE, or moving Walker to SAM at some point.

Hoopsdoc 04-27-2019 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 118448)
Almost 5 minutes to go 40 yards? I think I'd pass.

Whoops, I accidentally posted my 40 time. :D


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