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IndyNorm 01-10-2023 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MeSayDayo (Post 257479)
I tend to agree. What we can trust is that Ballard is going to do everything within his power and his scouting teams power to get this one right. Literally leave no rock unturned on any 3 of the QBs at the top.
This is why I doubt we see any sort of trade until after the combine and pro-days. No doubt, a lot of the overall evaluation of each player will come down to their interviews, wonderlic, private workouts and pro day showings.
There is going to be some differences....Young could have the fastest 40, but Levis may test off the charts in measurables and interview.
After this process and only after will we know how Ballard feels about the pick by his action or inaction. If he trades for #1 then he obviously loves one guy over the others. If he makes a smaller trade up to #3, I would imagine that he likes two of the three guys at the top. If he stands pat, I think he grades them about equally and will take whoever is left (or even trade that pick for a boatload, double down on next year and get someone like AR15 or Hooker, Bennett, etc)
I think a small trade up to 3 makes the most sense and protects us from losing out on all 3 guys if other teams feel inclined to trade into the top 3.
We just have to trust that our scouting team is good at what they do. If they make a trade for the #1 pick it will cost a ton (hoping it wont be all picks and includes a player or two of ours), but it also means that we feel very strongly about the player we take and he jumps out on film, Aced all the aforementioned testing.

No doubt they'll do their due diligence. I just hope they do it better than when they evaluated guys like Wentz, Ryan, Pryor, and Pinter :cool:

njcoltfan 01-10-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 257496)
Hell no on Derek Carr, just hell no. I would rather take a chance on Young, Stroud or Levis. Hopefully the Colts have learned their lesson on taking other team's QB rejects.

Stay at 4 and take Levis, if he's gone at 4, try to trade down. If that doesn't pan out take one of the edge guys and hopefully Richardson or Hooker will be there at 36.

Dam8610 01-10-2023 09:37 PM

Just remember everyone, there were "no franchise QBs" in the 2017 draft, either.

CletusPyle 01-10-2023 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 257580)
Just remember everyone, there were "no franchise QBs" in the 2017 draft, either.

Tom Brady was a 6th round QB....nuff said!

Dam8610 01-10-2023 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CletusPyle (Post 257584)
Tom Brady was a 6th round QB....nuff said!

Let's not talk about Cheaters that deserve to be banned from the league. Brock Purdy was Mr. Irrelevant.

Dewey 5 01-10-2023 10:05 PM

I would take Stroud over any qb in this draft. But that's me & I'm not the one making the pick.

ChaosTheory 01-10-2023 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 257563)
Groupthink is extremely prevalent in draft circles game

Sure, I get it. Also, when I say "everyone" I should clarify it's guys I tend to trust, not every yahoo with a YouTube channel.

Mainly bringing up the Young consensus in response to the talk about CHI potentially keep the pick and taking him. Which I could see because you can surely upgrade from Fields at QB.

Dam8610 01-10-2023 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 257591)
Sure, I get it. Also, when I say "everyone" I should clarify it's guys I tend to trust, not every yahoo with a YouTube channel.

Mainly bringing up the Young consensus in response to the talk about CHI potentially keep the pick and taking him. Which I could see because you can surely upgrade from Fields at QB.

The combine is going to be very important for Bryce Young. His height will determine a great deal of his draft stock. That said, he could be 6'2" and the best I would have him is 1b to CJ Stroud's 1a. If he's below 6'0", he's probably clearly 2 to Stroud's 1.

ChaosTheory 01-10-2023 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 257593)
The combine is going to be very important for Bryce Young. His height will determine a great deal of his draft stock. That said, he could be 6'2" and the best I would have him is 1b to CJ Stroud's 1a. If he's below 6'0", he's probably clearly 2 to Stroud's 1.

You seem to like Stroud to the point of taking him high even in another, let's say, less questionable year of QBs.

So as a Stroud advocate, why do you think (trustworthy) guys would rate him below Young even despite his small size? Which is a significant concern.

Chromeburn 01-11-2023 12:23 AM

I would stay put. Trading up to 1 would likely cost a 2024 1st and that will be a talented draft and I don't want to lose a 1st in that draft.

Nightmare scenario is:

Bears trade out and a QB gone.
Houston takes QB.
Cards decide they want a better thrower or trade out and a QB is taken.

That leaves us with Anderson or Carter. Trade down and take a QB later or take Richardson.

One of the top three should be there. Hopefully, 2 of them will be.


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