Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 50139)

What did the Bears give up to move up and get Trebisky?

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 50160)

One thing that may devalue this QB draft class is the potential FA or trade able QB's in 2018.

Alex Smith
Kirk Cousins
Eli Manning
Drew Brees
Jay Cutler
Tyrod Taylor
Teddy Bridgewater
Sam Bradford
Case Keenum

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 50129)

The Texans traded the Browns their 1st round pick (#25) and their 2018 first round pick (which will be #4, but obviously they had no way of knowing that ), for the #12 overall pick last year to grab Deshaun Watson.

The Chiefs traded the Bills their first round pick (#27 overall), their 3rd rounder and their 2018 first rounder to move up to #10 to grab Patrick Mahomes.

I think that guys like Mayfield/Allen will have similar value and that if it's moving up to #3, the asking price should be, at a minimum, this year's #1 (and it better be a first half selection) and next years' as well as another round pick in 2018.

I agree with you that guys like Mayfield/Allen aren't going to grade out as being "Trade The Franchise Worthy", but I do think that it's possible that if two QB's go one-two and there's a bunch of other QB-starved teams that it's possible a run on QB's to open the draft could cause a team to desperately trade the Colts a healthy sum.

Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 50164)

The only pick I'm really against at 3 is Nelson. I know Colts have a huge hole at guard, but I've lost track of how often there's a "can't miss" guard like Chance Warmack or Jonathan Cooper, etc. People act like Nelson is can't-miss because he's a guard.

I'm just categorically against that draft investment for a guard.

Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 50145)

The Chicago Bears traded up one spot in the draft with the San Francisco 49ers to select quarterback Mitch Trubisky.


Chicago dealt the No. 3 pick, their third round pick (No. 67), one of their fourth round picks (No. 111) and a 2018 third-round pick to move up and take Trubisky, considered one of the draft’s top quarterbacks.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 50165)

Manning and Brees are short-term fixes which would not negate drafting a QB. Cutler is likely a back-up going forward, as could be one or two of those listed here. Smith is on the back 9, too. Further, teams who would lose one of these guys, except MINN, would need to replace them.

Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 50213)

Did they swap first round picks as well in that deal?