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Wyatt 03-23-2017 06:04 AM

@Colton_Wood08
R.J.Shelton said he has met with numerous NFL teams and is flying to visit the Colts tonight.

sherck 03-23-2017 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7751)
@Colton_Wood08
R.J.Shelton said he has met with numerous NFL teams and is flying to visit the Colts tonight.

Walter Football does not have him ranked within their top 50 WRs.
No other prospect ranking that I an find has him either.

He did return Kickoffs for the Spartans but did not return Punts.

UDFA. Perhaps a return guy. I don't see anything else.


Cheers,

sherck 03-23-2017 07:50 AM

Maurice Jones-Drew did a ranking of all the draft RBs over on NFL.com (located here).

In it, he listed 4 guys as "Day One starters on any NFL Team:"
#01 Joe Mixon, Oklahoma
#02 Dalvin Cook, Florida Stats
#03 Leonard Fournette, LSU
#04 Christian McCaffrey, Stanford

He then listed another 11 RBs as "System Players" whom he thinks can come in, provide quality depth and get good touches. His ranking:

#05 Brian Hill, Wyoming
#06 Jamaal Williams, BYU
#07 Alvin Kamara, Tennessee
#08 Samaje Perine, Oklahoma
#09 Aaron Jones, UTEP
#10 Marion Mack, South Florida
#11 Tarik Cohen, North Carolina A&T
#12 Jeremy McNichois, Boise State
#13 Kareem Hunt, Toledo
#14 D'Onta Foreman, Texas
#15 Donnel Pumphrey, San Diego State
#16 James Conner, Pittsburgh

The nice thing is that a lot of mock drafts that I look at have a numbe of those RBs (in the 10-16 range) often still available in the 4th round.

I think our chances of getting a RB in the 4th round that has the ability to provide quality depth behind Gore this season and behind a new rookie stud next season is pretty high.

Off of MJDs short blurbs, I like Kareem Hunt, Jeremy McNichols and Aaron Jones the best of those who might be around in the 4th. I think I am going to trust MJDs vision of RBs because he was a pretty darn good one in his own right.

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-23-2017 08:12 AM

@DraftAnalyst1
#Cincinnati LB Eric Wilson ran near a 4.5s 40-yd dash, jumped a 39.5" vert & met w/ the #Jaguars, #Jets, & #Colts:

sherck 03-23-2017 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7765)
@DraftAnalyst1
#Cincinnati LB Eric Wilson ran near a 4.5s 40-yd dash, jumped a 39.5" vert & met w/ the #Jaguars, #Jets, & #Colts:

But yet another kid whom was not combine invited, is not listed on any of the prospect rankings and appears to be a UDFA.

??


Cheers,

sherck 03-23-2017 12:17 PM

I am settling into a draft board that pretty much looks like:

1st round = ILB Hassan Riddick, Temple or OLB Tim Williams, Alabama

2nd round = CB Howard Wilson, Houston (or Cordrea Tankersley if he is still available but I doubt he makes it that far)

3rd round = BPA in the defensive front-7

4th round = CB, TE, RB

5th round = Best 3-4 NT prospect left (which might be all of them; none are expected to draft high)

That would be 3 new players in the defensive front-7, 2 CBs and then immediate depth at RB and TE.

Hopefully, snag a few 53 man surprise cast offs and see what happens.

Cheers,

VeveJones007 03-23-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7792)
I am settling into a draft board that pretty much looks like:

1st round = ILB Hassan Riddick, Temple or OLB Tim Williams, Alabama

2nd round = CB Howard Wilson, Houston (or Cordrea Tankersley if he is still available but I doubt he makes it that far)

3rd round = BPA in the defensive front-7

4th round = CB, TE, RB

5th round = Best 3-4 NT prospect left (which might be all of them; none are expected to draft high)

That would be 3 new players in the defensive front-7, 2 CBs and then immediate depth at RB and TE.

Hopefully, snag a few 53 man surprise cast offs and see what happens.

Cheers,

I think first two picks will look like this:

1st = Foster, Reddick, or Harris
2nd = Cunningham or McMillan (if Reddick or Harris in 1st), or best CB available

rcubed 03-23-2017 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7792)
I am settling into a draft board that pretty much looks like:

1st round = ILB Hassan Riddick, Temple or OLB Tim Williams, Alabama

2nd round = CB Howard Wilson, Houston (or Cordrea Tankersley if he is still available but I doubt he makes it that far)

3rd round = BPA in the defensive front-7

4th round = CB, TE, RB

5th round = Best 3-4 NT prospect left (which might be all of them; none are expected to draft high)

That would be 3 new players in the defensive front-7, 2 CBs and then immediate depth at RB and TE.

Hopefully, snag a few 53 man surprise cast offs and see what happens.

Cheers,

are you assuming foster wont be there at 15 or choosing to pass on him?

Puck 03-23-2017 12:36 PM

I think the first pick will be Oline or CB whichever is BPA

Can you imagine how much better the offense would be with another Kelly type player on the Oline?

VeveJones007 03-23-2017 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7806)
I think the first pick will be Oline or CB whichever is BPA

Can you imagine how much better the offense would be with another Kelly type player on the Oline?

Who is that player? The top of this draft sucks for o-lineman.

Puck 03-23-2017 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 7809)
Who is that player? The top of this draft sucks for o-lineman.

If you are drafting for need

Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
Cam Robinson, Alabama
Garett Bolles, Utah

VeveJones007 03-23-2017 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7811)
If you are drafting for need

Ryan Ramczyk, Wisconsin
Forrest Lamp, Western Kentucky
Cam Robinson, Alabama
Garett Bolles, Utah

Fair enough. IMO, they need to see what they really have in Haeg and Clark before investing another valuable pick in the o-line. The defense is just so devoid of talent that it's imperative that they upgrade there.

sherck 03-23-2017 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 7805)
are you assuming foster wont be there at 15 or choosing to pass on him?

I do not think Foster will be there at #15.

If he is, then pick him but I don't think he will be there. I tried to be realistic in whom would be there.

Cheers,

Dam8610 03-23-2017 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7792)
I am settling into a draft board that pretty much looks like:

1st round = ILB Hassan Riddick, Temple or OLB Tim Williams, Alabama

2nd round = CB Howard Wilson, Houston (or Cordrea Tankersley if he is still available but I doubt he makes it that far)

3rd round = BPA in the defensive front-7

4th round = CB, TE, RB

5th round = Best 3-4 NT prospect left (which might be all of them; none are expected to draft high)

That would be 3 new players in the defensive front-7, 2 CBs and then immediate depth at RB and TE.

Hopefully, snag a few 53 man surprise cast offs and see what happens.

Cheers,

Reddick is going to be a OLB in the NFL, and a perfect fit for a 3-4 defense.

natagu23 03-23-2017 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 7826)
Reddick is going to be a OLB in the NFL, and a perfect fit for a 3-4 defense.

He's too light to play on the outside. He could bulk up, but i see him more as a ilb or a 43 will.

Dam8610 03-23-2017 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natagu23 (Post 7833)
He's too light to play on the outside. He could bulk up, but i see him more as a ilb or a 43 will.

If he adds 10 pounds of good weight, he's 6'1" 247, which is plenty of size to play OLB in a 3-4 in the NFL.

YDFL Commish 03-23-2017 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dam8610 (Post 7849)
If he adds 10 pounds of good weight, he's 6'1" 247, which is plenty of size to play OLB in a 3-4 in the NFL.

To be honest...and I've said this before, I don't what Reddick is. But, if I had to give my order of best fits, it would be this:
  1. 4-3 WILL
  2. 3-4 ILB
  3. 4-3 MLB
  4. 3-4 Rush OLB
  5. 4-3 SAM
  6. 3-4 SAM

smitty46953 03-23-2017 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7819)
I do not think Foster will be there at #15.

If he is, then pick him but I don't think he will be there. I tried to be realistic in whom would be there.

Cheers,

if Foster is there at #15 you take him and don't look back. Watched some of the clips with him and he is one quick, mean linebacker ... :cool:

Blue Thunder 03-23-2017 07:32 PM

I don't know about you guys but unless Ballard grabs an experienced CB (whats left of them} in FA it won't matter for this year anyway. After Vontae, there is NOTHING behind him that's starter quality. Melvin is ok but as a #3 at best. I won't feel good about drafting a CB in the 2nd or 3rd round to be an instant starter either. We need a 1st round quality starter. We also need another CB in the 3rd or 4th just to have some talent in case of injury.

I'd love Reddick, or Foster, or Barnett in the 1st but to me the smart play is wait until round 2 for a LB. JMO

njcoltfan 03-23-2017 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 7854)
I don't know about you guys but unless Ballard grabs an experienced CB (whats left of them} in FA it won't matter for this year anyway. After Vontae, there is NOTHING behind him that's starter quality. Melvin is ok but as a #3 at best. I won't feel good about drafting a CB in the 2nd or 3rd round to be an instant starter either. We need a 1st round quality starter. We also need another CB in the 3rd or 4th just to have some talent in case of injury.

I'd love Reddick, or Foster, or Barnett in the 1st but to me the smart play is wait until round 2 for a LB. JMO

Not if one of those 3 are available !! If this is truly a throw away year, first 2 rounds are pass rushers and after that CB or defensive BPA !!!

Dam8610 03-23-2017 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 7852)
To be honest...and I've said this before, I don't what Reddick is. But, if I had to give my order of best fits, it would be this:
  1. 4-3 WILL
  2. 3-4 ILB
  3. 4-3 MLB
  4. 3-4 Rush OLB
  5. 4-3 SAM
  6. 3-4 SAM

He's too good at bending the edge to not be used on the outside. James Harrison is 6'0" 242 and he's had a great career as a 34 OLB. Robert Mathis at 6'2" 245 had the best season of his career as a 34 OLB. Haason Reddick at 6'1" 247 would be fine as a 34 OLB in terms of size, and he's the type of player who will succeed there.

omahacolt 03-23-2017 11:36 PM

James Harrison is not 242 lbs

Blue Thunder 03-23-2017 11:43 PM

Hey NJ...I'm not looking at this year as a throw away year. With all the bullshit in the front office, the usual injuries, low caliber coaching, and our defense, Colts make playoffs if not for 2 brutal 9th inning collapses. So. no I'm all in for immediate success with Ballard (if Andy's shoulder is indeed ok). We need CB's in a "passing league". I believe Ballard has increased our pass rush ability already over the last 2 seasons with the FA acquisitions. A good one in the draft and we're good.

Wyatt 03-24-2017 06:53 AM

@ShouldntBragBut 4h4 hours ago
Michigan OG Kyle Kalis has an upcoming visit with the Colts and Indy was represented at their Pro Day:

Wyatt 03-24-2017 06:55 AM

Chad Williams‏
Thanks @Colts for an amazing visit👍🏾

WR from Grambling State

Wyatt 03-24-2017 07:00 AM

@Tyrant_Scouting Mar 22
@TomcatFB QB/WR Ryan Radke (@Ryanradke13 ) with pro day buzz from the Pittsburgh Steelers and Indianapolis Colts. @TheDreamBowl alumni.

Wyatt 03-24-2017 07:11 AM

@MyColtsAccount 14h14 hours ago
Reports say Ballard likes EDGE Charles Harris (Missouri). Not my favourite pick @ 15, but that's a nice trade back option (along w/ Lawson).

njcoltfan 03-24-2017 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 7870)
Hey NJ...I'm not looking at this year as a throw away year. With all the bullshit in the front office, the usual injuries, low caliber coaching, and our defense, Colts make playoffs if not for 2 brutal 9th inning collapses. So. no I'm all in for immediate success with Ballard (if Andy's shoulder is indeed ok). We need CB's in a "passing league". I believe Ballard has increased our pass rush ability already over the last 2 seasons with the FA acquisitions. A good one in the draft and we're good.

OK, you are all in for immediate success, who's going to rush the passer ?? I would rather get my pass rushers in the first couple of rounds and make opposing QB's get rid of the ball before they want to. I guess it's just a matter of preference, either way this defense needs play making starters.

VeveJones007 03-24-2017 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 7852)
To be honest...and I've said this before, I don't what Reddick is. But, if I had to give my order of best fits, it would be this:
  1. 4-3 WILL
  2. 3-4 ILB
  3. 4-3 MLB
  4. 3-4 Rush OLB
  5. 4-3 SAM
  6. 3-4 SAM

If you're concerned about him setting the edge, then ILB on run downs and moving outside in passing situations.

Still, I think he'll primarily play EDGE in the NFL. If Clay Matthews and Robert Mathis can play on the outside, then so can Reddick.

Puck 03-24-2017 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7887)
@MyColtsAccount 14h14 hours ago
Reports say Ballard likes EDGE Charles Harris (Missouri). Not my favourite pick @ 15, but that's a nice trade back option (along w/ Lawson).


I saw this earlier this month too

VeveJones007 03-24-2017 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder (Post 7870)
Hey NJ...I'm not looking at this year as a throw away year. With all the bullshit in the front office, the usual injuries, low caliber coaching, and our defense, Colts make playoffs if not for 2 brutal 9th inning collapses. So. no I'm all in for immediate success with Ballard (if Andy's shoulder is indeed ok). We need CB's in a "passing league". I believe Ballard has increased our pass rush ability already over the last 2 seasons with the FA acquisitions. A good one in the draft and we're good.

They absolutely need to improve both the pass rush and corner play. This draft can basically be BPA for any defensive position and it'll be the best course of action.

Wyatt 03-24-2017 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7901)
I saw this earlier this month too

yep same here, it'll be interesting to see if Foster/Ridgeway aren't there at 1-15 if we try to trade back and get this guy

sherck 03-24-2017 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7903)
yep same here, it'll be interesting to see if Foster/Ridgeway aren't there at 1-15 if we try to trade back and get this guy

Ridgeway?

You mean Riddick?

Cheers,

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Wyatt 03-24-2017 09:46 AM

oh God, yes, thanks!

VeveJones007 03-24-2017 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 7901)
I saw this earlier this month too

Matt Miller (Bleacher Report) reported it. It's hard to know whether or not these types of "leaks" are misinformation; though, Miller did have a source last year that said the Colts were going to pick Kelly.

sherck 03-24-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7903)
yep same here, it'll be interesting to see if Foster/Ridgeway aren't there at 1-15 if we try to trade back and get this guy

So, as a complete hypothetical, using the draft trade value chart from Walter Football (they are all similar), would you rather have:

1-15 Hassan Riddick ?

---- OR -------

Trade 1-15 and 3-16 for Lions 1-21, 2-21 and 4-21

then

Trade 1-21 for Cowboys 1-28, 3-28

--------------------------------------------

In essence, trading Hassan Riddick for Charles Harris plus

2-21, 3-28, 4-21 while giving away 3-16 ?

Assuming that Charles Harris is available at 1-28 which most mock drafts have him being so.

Interesting question. It all depends on how Ballard and our staff rate the rookies available in the first round.

Cheers,

Wyatt 03-24-2017 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7914)
So, as a complete hypothetical, using the draft trade value chart from Walter Football (they are all similar), would you rather have:

1-15 Hassan Riddick ?

---- OR -------

Trade 1-15 and 3-16 for Lions 1-21, 2-21 and 4-21

then

Trade 1-21 for Cowboys 1-28, 3-28

--------------------------------------------

In essence, trading Hassan Riddick for Charles Harris plus

2-21, 3-28, 4-21 while giving away 3-16 ?

Assuming that Charles Harris is available at 1-28 which most mock drafts have him being so.

Interesting question. It all depends on how Ballard and our staff rate the rookies available in the first round.

Cheers,

If this is the historic draft I keep hearing it is, then I like option 2, no doubt

VeveJones007 03-24-2017 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wyatt (Post 7887)
@MyColtsAccount 14h14 hours ago
Reports say Ballard likes EDGE Charles Harris (Missouri). Not my favourite pick @ 15, but that's a nice trade back option (along w/ Lawson).

I like Harris a lot (more than Barnett, for instance). Like this says, I would prefer it if they got him after trading back. If they could go back to the early 20's, add a 3rd, and get Harris, it would be a really nice move.

VeveJones007 03-24-2017 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sherck (Post 7914)
So, as a complete hypothetical, using the draft trade value chart from Walter Football (they are all similar), would you rather have:

1-15 Hassan Riddick ?

---- OR -------

Trade 1-15 and 3-16 for Lions 1-21, 2-21 and 4-21

then

Trade 1-21 for Cowboys 1-28, 3-28

--------------------------------------------

In essence, trading Hassan Riddick for Charles Harris plus

2-21, 3-28, 4-21 while giving away 3-16 ?

Assuming that Charles Harris is available at 1-28 which most mock drafts have him being so.

Interesting question. It all depends on how Ballard and our staff rate the rookies available in the first round.

Cheers,

Option #2, please. I'd be happy if they just got 1.21+3.21 and picked Harris there.

GoBigBlue88 03-24-2017 10:40 AM

Honestly, I'll be happy with a lot of draft picks this year. I would have only been happy with 2 or 3 last year.


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