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Puck 09-04-2018 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 77575)
Not at all. I like that Ballard had a good reputation. And I am not calling for his head or anything like that. I am just not impressed with what he has done. For example:

1). We have Andrew Luck. As far as I know he is healthy. You build your team knowing you have a top 5 qb in the league. Meaning that you can win quickly.

2). The build through the draft propaganda is annoying. Every team builds through the draft. That is the best and cheapest way to add talent. We aren’t doing something special here.

3). Hankins, simon and Anderson are talented football players. Cutting good players speaks directly against the competition mantra he tries to sell. Scheme fit isn’t an issue either. That is a lie.

4). I like that Ballard seems intent to build the lines. I agree with that. Not sure why he took the dudes he took but at this point I have no problem letting that play out.

5). Saving that much cash is asinine. You can use some to supplement the roster. Unless he thinks he can do what nobody has ever done and nail the draft every year. He will be lucky to get 2 really good players a year in the draft. Adding talent with the available cap space is just smart.

6). This roster, on paper, is unproven at best and a disaster at worst. That is just a fact.

I don’t hate Ballard. I don’t like that he is not taking advantage of all his resources and playing only one hand. He has a home run hitter in luck and he is asking him to bunt. That is my main issue.

And god damn shrek needs to stop editing my posts. I have never touched a post out of spite and never would. That has never been what this board was about. Shows his lack of integrity.



AGAIN on Hankins...... He came here because we ran a 3-4.... He said he would not play in a 4-3. I am assuming he had an out in the contract. That is exactly why he wanted out of NY.


Not sure why this is so hard to understand. Did you want him on the field to only play as a situational DT on goal lines and IF we go into a 3 front?

Hankins did well here but face it he was not a superstar. He was the best of a shitty line. Same with Anderson. I thought Simon would make the team, And now that we know Ballard was trying to trade him we should all be able to understand why he played so much. But again he was a star in a very vanilla D that hasn't shown any of their cards yet

Puck 09-04-2018 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 77573)
I’m curious, at what point would people thinks it’s fair to criticize Ballard? I didn’t pay attention to see when disagreeing with Grigson became considered legitimate and not “sky is falling” overreaction. Puck says he’ll wait to have an opinion until he has the benefit of hindsight. Is that the way to not be considered a hater?


I never said I agree with everything he has done, but jumping to judgement before knowing all the facts is retarded.

We haven't even played a fucking game yet!!!!!!!

Have you judged this team by the play in pre season?????? Ballard sure hopes the other teams in the AFC south have.....

What the interview with Hilton about what we haven't seen yet this year and you see that big ole smile in his answer! They have intentialy played vanilla.
Luck didn't throw a pass over 18 yards during preseason. It is all by design. They were not working on seeing how many points or even wins they could get, they were working on installing a new offense against another team to see what different looks they would see..... Yes I know other teams were vanilla too... But this applies to the D also. So forgive me if I want to wait to slit my wrist before I see what the team actually looks like


Not saying they are going to win 19 games by 50 points, but I think you are under rating what Frank Reichs presence on this team will mean after having PigShit the last 6 yrs.

Puck 09-04-2018 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 77576)
And it is you’re btw.

Good catch..... Wait..... so when I say you're a ass, I am using it correctly right?

omahacolt 09-04-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 77589)
Good catch..... Wait..... so when I say you're a ass, I am using it correctly right?

Absolutely. That is correct.

omahacolt 09-04-2018 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 77582)
AGAIN on Hankins...... He came here because we ran a 3-4.... He said he would not play in a 4-3. I am assuming he had an out in the contract. That is exactly why he wanted out of NY.


Not sure why this is so hard to understand. Did you want him on the field to only play as a situational DT on goal lines and IF we go into a 3 front?

Hankins did well here but face it he was not a superstar. He was the best of a shitty line. Same with Anderson. I thought Simon would make the team, And now that we know Ballard was trying to trade him we should all be able to understand why he played so much. But again he was a star in a very vanilla D that hasn't shown any of their cards yet

Hankins was under contract. I doubt they put in a clause for scheme.

Anderson deserved a shot in camp imo. He is better than hunt.

I don’t even care that much about Simon other than it is bs to say there was a competition. If you have good players, and you can’t use them, your scheme sucks.

Puck 09-04-2018 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by omahacolt (Post 77593)
Hankins was under contract. I doubt they put in a clause for scheme.

Anderson deserved a shot in camp imo. He is better than hunt.

I don’t even care that much about Simon other than it is bs to say there was a competition. If you have good players, and you can’t use them, your scheme sucks.

Which other players fit the scheme that was in place?

rm1369 09-04-2018 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 77587)

Not saying they are going to win 19 games by 50 points, but I think you are under rating what Frank Reichs presence on this team will mean after having PigShit the last 6 yrs.

No, I 100% agree on the difference from Pagano to Reich - especially offensively. But that’s exactly why I disagree with the fucking JV team defense Ballard will be throwing out there. Assuming Luck is the player he was pre injury, the offense has a chance to be explosive. Especially if Ballard would have taken a fucking legitimate shot at fixing RT and WR2 instead looking for shitty place holders until he could eventually fix them in the draft.

Luck gives this team a chance to win every time he takes the field. If Reich is who most of us think he is then the team doesn’t need a god damn 4 year rebuilding plan to be truly competitive. The building a long sustained dynasty thru the draft is fucking pie in the sky bullshit. This isn’t the 1970s or 80s NFL.

Brylok 09-04-2018 10:38 PM

I didn't read the entire thread, but I assume everyone has seen the week 1 defensive depth chart. That thing looks like the equivalent of tossing a kid into a pool and saying "now learn to swim". I guess that's one way to learn. But it's more likely to end in drowning or getting shredded. Players we cut loose could have helped but we'll see.

smitty46953 09-04-2018 10:46 PM

If I counted right we have 18 of the 53 man roster in their 1st or 2nd year. Roughly 34% makes a very young squad. One thing guys in NFL first couple years make a much greater jump in talent than run of the mill vets. Guess we have that to look forwards to. :cool:

Hoopsdoc 09-05-2018 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 77604)
I didn't read the entire thread, but I assume everyone has seen the week 1 defensive depth chart. That thing looks like the equivalent of tossing a kid into a pool and saying "now learn to swim". I guess that's one way to learn. But it's more likely to end in drowning or getting shredded. Players we cut loose could have helped but we'll see.

The defense will be bottom 5 in the league. I can guarantee you that.

I think this is a 4-5 win team, max. If I’m wrong I’ll be happy.

JAFF 09-05-2018 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 77573)
I’m curious, at what point would people thinks it’s fair to criticize Ballard? I didn’t pay attention to see when disagreeing with Grigson became considered legitimate and not “sky is falling” overreaction. Puck says he’ll wait to have an opinion until he has the benefit of hindsight. Is that the way to not be considered a hater?

IF this rookie class stinks, Ballards going to catch it. He will deserve it.

Chaka 09-05-2018 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 77617)
The defense will be bottom 5 in the league. I can guarantee you that.

I think this is a 4-5 win team, max. If I’m wrong I’ll be happy.

By almost any measure, we already were a bottom five defense even with the guys who got cut/traded:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

This isn't the 85 Bears that Ballard is disassembling...

GoBigBlue88 09-05-2018 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 77625)
IF this rookie class stinks, Ballards going to catch it. He will deserve it.

It is the easiest 53-man roster for a rookie to get playing time. If Ballard's picks going back to last year -- thinking specifically Wilson, Basham, Smith, Turay, Hines and Stewart -- aren't making significant contributions (don't even have to be starters!) by the midseason mark, Ballard will and should be criticized.

Also honestly think Ballard gets criticized if Nelson is just a guy out there and not making any big difference on the OL. Risk you take when you draft an OG at #6 overall.

smitty46953 09-05-2018 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GoBigBlue88 (Post 77632)

Also honestly think Ballard gets criticized if Nelson is just a guy out there and not making any big difference on the OL. Risk you take when you draft an OG at #6 overall.

He is most definitely being thrown against a tough matchup in his first game. Geno Atkins will be a real test. Personally I can't wait to watch those two specifically. Hoping for a decent showing. :cool:

FatDT 09-05-2018 09:27 AM

If Nelson isn't a multi-year All Pro then we wasted that pick. But I have no reason to expect he'll be anything other than an All Pro.

smitty46953 09-05-2018 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 77642)
If Nelson isn't a multi-year All Pro then we wasted that pick. But I have no reason to expect he'll be anything other than an All Pro.

I agree, just not expecting it right out of the gate. Lord knows on this site the first time his guy even breathes on Luck there will be those saying he was a wasted pick. :cool:

omahacolt 09-05-2018 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 77642)
If Nelson isn't a multi-year All Pro then we wasted that pick. But I have no reason to expect he'll be anything other than an All Pro.

He will have growing pains like most rookies but I expect him to be playing at a pro bowl level at the end of the year. Not saying he will make it but at that caliber

Oldcolt 09-05-2018 10:40 AM

I really enjoy the passion on this site. I appreciate giving my opinion and having my fellow fans call me a ‘ball swinger’ (whatever the hell that is-it even stumped google). We all root for the same team in different ways and get to give shit to each other. Some of you people are incredibly good with words. It’s a great diversion from life. Thanks

FatDT 09-05-2018 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 77644)
I agree, just not expecting it right out of the gate. Lord knows on this site the first time his guy even breathes on Luck there will be those saying he was a wasted pick. :cool:

I don't mean his rookie year. He will have his "welcome to the NFL" moments. That's expected. I mean for his career. In a general sense I'm against taking guards that high, but there is lots of evidence that Nelson is a generational talent and will go down as one of the best ever at his position.

Oldcolt 09-05-2018 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 77654)
I don't mean his rookie year. He will have his "welcome to the NFL" moments. That's expected. I mean for his career. In a general sense I'm against taking guards that high, but there is lots of evidence that Nelson is a generational talent and will go down as one of the best ever at his position.

I think this guy may be worth it. His awareness is amazing. He makes the entire line better by seeing and helping out. Can’t wait to see this line develop

FatDT 09-05-2018 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 77655)
I think this guy may be worth it. His awareness is amazing. He makes the entire line better by seeing and helping out. Can’t wait to see this line develop

The talent is now there for sure. If our starters stay mostly healthy and our scheme doesn't suck, the offense should be strong and Luck protected even with him knocking the rust off and the WRs being Hilton and a bunch of JAGs. With the relative strength of our TEs compared to the WRs I think we'll see plenty of 12 personnel packages. Which should only help the OL on the edges.

YDFL Commish 09-05-2018 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 77589)
Good catch..... Wait..... so when I say you're a ass, I am using it correctly right?

Grammatically speaking you should say...Omaha, you're an ass.

omahacolt 09-05-2018 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 77678)
Grammatically speaking you should say...Omaha, you're an ass.

I will accept either or

JAFF 09-05-2018 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 77531)
fuck. is it football yet?

YOU sir, are a genius!

JAFF 09-05-2018 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chaka (Post 77630)
By almost any measure, we already were a bottom five defense even with the guys who got cut/traded:

http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorysta...1&d-447263-n=1

This isn't the 85 Bears that Ballard is disassembling...

Bingo

Dewey 5 10-23-2018 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 76914)
I don’t have any personal ill will toward Green. He’s not a good football player, and he was over drafted, that last part especially isn’t his fault. Grigson and Pagano were stupid for wasting a 2nd on him.

And now he quit football.

Safety T.J. Green, signed earlier this month, was placed on the exempt list without having played a single snap for the team. Speaking to the media on Monday afternoon, Pete Carroll explained Green was done with football and intends to retire.
https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/10/2...on-exempt-list

FatDT 10-23-2018 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 87632)
And now he quit football.

Safety T.J. Green, signed earlier this month, was placed on the exempt list without having played a single snap for the team. Speaking to the media on Monday afternoon, Pete Carroll explained Green was done with football and intends to retire.
https://www.fieldgulls.com/2018/10/2...on-exempt-list

Clearly did not like playing football. I wonder how much money he extracted before giving up.

sherck 10-23-2018 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 87633)
Clearly did not like playing football. I wonder how much money he extracted before giving up.

$3.15m over his first three years in the league.

This year? Unknown for sure until the numbers come in but I would suspect it will be right around $140k.;

So, about $3.25m total. Back out agent fees and taxes, he should have had about $1.75m after tax dollars since he signed an NFL contract.

No telling how well he did or did not spend that.

Walk Worthy,

DrSpaceman 10-23-2018 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 87635)
$3.15m over his first three years in the league.

This year? Unknown for sure until the numbers come in but I would suspect it will be right around $140k.;

So, about $3.25m total. Back out agent fees and taxes, he should have had about $1.75m after tax dollars since he signed an NFL contract.

No telling how well he did or did not spend that.

Walk Worthy,

That's about $3 million too much


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