There's some hyperbole going on here with Nelson. His value is his consistency, but no one will ever convince me that an elite guard will have as much of an impact on any given game as an elite pass rusher or an elite QB. If Nelson was a LT, I could understand the argument for him, but he's not. He's a guard. Guards have value, but not Top 5 pick value. This is about building a championship team, and the Colts will not do that by picking a guard in the Top 5.

Think about all the Super Bowls you've ever watched. Did you ever think "(Insert Team)'s starting guard is going to be a key factor in this game"? Now, did you ever think "(Insert Team)'s top pass rusher is going to be a key factor in this game"? I'd be willing to bet the first thought has never crossed your mind, while the second is a near annual occurrence. That's why you don't take Nelson Top 5. Chubb is the only choice that makes sense for this team.

There are other options people.

Isaiah Wynn and Will Hernandez are both better than we currently have.

Sign both Pugh and Mewhort to 1 yr prove it deals.

This isn't NCAA Basketball, where the with best guards win the championship.

I like Hernandez. If we can get him in the 2nd we're in good shape.

reports are we were in on watkins

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The Rams gave up a 2nd rounder in August to get Sammy Watkins and they wanted him back badly. They thought they would too. The price was too high, I'm told. The Chiefs, Colts, and Bears were all in the final mix. Kansas City won.

I think they'll also be in on Brown and Matthews, then.

I applaud Ballard for not overspending and fucking up the locker room. Very Polianesque.

Glad we didn't get Watkins.

Malcolm Butler, Titans Agree to 5-Year, $61M Contract

:cool:

Wow CBs are getting overpaid. Butler over $12 million AAV on a 5 year deal to the Titans and Johnson going to the Jets on a $15 million AAV deal. Makes Breeland to the Panthers for $8 million AAV look reasonable.

All the AFC South teams are over spending to acquire talent. But are they getting better?

I think about it every time Luck gets hit or our RB gets stopped for a 3 yd loss

Yes

Better than the colts

If Luck is healthy, Texans with a healthy Watson are the only ones that concern me.

Jacksonville won the off-season last year, and they came one win away from the Super Bowl, and they are off to a great start this year already...you need to spend money to acquire good talent, being wallflowers is not helping the Colts at all.

You should know about Hyperbole as your full of it more often than not, or at least full of something that could be confused as hyperbole. Heck we all are ...

As for your Super Bowl question, when they talk about an offensive line it is often due to glaring holes, the good lines are seldom mentioned. Take last years Eagles seldom heard anything about them, because they did what they are supposed to do. Other teams like the Cowboys and Steelers have invested in their line. If we build a comparable line to protect Luck we are much better off than Luck standing on sidelines in a sling watching Chubb get a few sacks. Chubb isn't a Mathis or Freeney nor will he be in my opinion ....

However, the Colts will probably take Chubb as that is what all the talking heads think we should do.

I Personally hope we trade back with the Bills and take OT Mike McGlinchy at 12 and OG Will Hernandez at 21 ... :cool:

He can watch Chubb wearing a sling holding clipboard for Jacoby ... :cool:

Jags are a couple wins better than the Colts. Those lines are really strong.

Name the last former top 15 pick to start a Super Bowl at OG. I'll wait.

Meanwhile: Brandon Graham, Vic Beasley, Von Miller, DeMarcus Ware, Terrell Suggs, Justin Smith, Jason Pierre-Paul, Dwight Freeney

I left a lot of guys off who weren't obvious pass rushers but who contributed greatly to their team's pass rush (Fletcher Cox, B.J. Raji, Haloti Ngata, Ty Warren, Richard Seymour).

Chubb is not Freeney or Mathis nor does he have to be. J.J. Watt isn't a speed rusher, but he sure as hell is effective as a pass rusher when healthy. Many gifted pass rushers got after the QB despite lacking elite speed, and at 4.65, I'd say Chubb has it for a DE. This defense needs a leader and a franchise player, and this team needs to invest in its defense in a way that it hasn't in a long time. I understand your concern about the OL, but the team has two former first round picks there that are quality players (one needs to be healthy more often) and the positions that need filled are ones you see championship teams fill with late round picks, UDFAs, and free agents in general. And since you're harping on this "Luck in a sling" thing, what does it matter if he's healthy of the other team is dropping 40 every week? By the way, that will get him injured pretty quickly, as well, obvious passing downs are the worst for QBs' health.

Blake Bortles negates that.

I do like the colts odds with a healthy Luck and no pagano. Still this team needs talent. Are we going to add any?

I sure hope so. They kind of have to because CBA. Definitely through the draft. There are actually quite a few interesting free agents still out there. Maybe Ballard doesn't want to hamper himself with mega contracts?

The Polian teams were always contending for a SB. There were some very good established players on those squads.

This is a last place team. They will finish last again in 2018. Hard to fuck up the locker room when you suck & are void of talent.

There are a few, and they are Hall of Fame caliber selections ...

Leonard Davis (G-DAL) Last one picked (2001,Pick #2)
Johnathon Ogden (G-BAL) (1996, Pick #4) (Drafted as a G) Hall of Fame
John Hannah (G-NE) (1973, Pick #4) Hall of Fame
Tom Mack (G-LAR) (1966, Pick #2) Hall of Fame

Although didn't play in Super Bowl Chris Hinton long time Colt was drafted #4 in 1983 by the Broncos before going to Baltimore played both G and T

Sorry took so long hope your wait wasn't to bad ....

Not saying Nelson belongs in HOF so no need to keep arguing your point, just answering a question :cool:

Saw someone on Twitter say the Colts were closing in on Carlos Hyde, but I don't know if it was credible.

Ogden started at LT in his Super Bowl. So, in the Super Bowl era, there have been 3 former top 15 OGs to start a Super Bowl, while in the past decade, there have been 8 former top 15 pass rushers to start a Super Bowl. I think my point is made.

Never said he started at G believe it says drafted as a G .. Don't recall anyone saying there were more Guards than pass rushers. Therefore, You had no point to make. Maybe for once you can admit that opinions although different from yours do not require constant argument. I am not trying to sway your opinion nor will you sway mine... :cool:

That would be a great pickup.

NFL Network's Aditi Kinkhabwala reports free agent Frank Gore will visit the Lions this week. :cool:

But, factor in SB contender and no state tax into the equation.

Blake. Bortles.

Johnson signing with Jets for $15 million AAV deal.

Seems the agents are the ones feeding the rumor mill trying to drive up prices.

Average QB, but you can win with an average an if your other pieces are strong such as defense and running game.

A great QB makes things easier, but they don’t need one right now. They are in Sb or bust mode.

Then they'll bust.

Worked for Tampa Bay, Baltimore, and the Eagles did it with their backup. So not really out of the realm of possibility.

The colts need talent. And there would be no cap issue with adding 1 or 2 high priced players to get that talent.

Just need guys who want to come to Indy.

Preferably one with talent.

I agree with you, but apparently Ballard doesn't see any of these players as worth the contracts they're getting. Thus far, the only ones that I'd really like to see the Colts beat are the Wilkerson and Breeland contracts.