Heh, Mel Kiper has Dalvin Cook at #8 and Mike Williams at #9 on his Big Board. Both are possible/probable to still be available when we come up at #15.

This BPA, come hell or high water approach can get you in trouble in a hurry.

No, we don't need 10 LB's, but we do need ones that are good. I like Sheard and Simon, I'm okay with the upside of Mingo/Spence, but I also know that we need more TALENT there.

Pass rush and ILB for the first two picks is my preference.

Maybe OT. But I don't think they would be BPA anyway. Could be a RB but I doubt they grade out that much ahead of a CB or LB

I can't see drafting a RB, or a LB after investing all your FA $ in LB's

Our 1st round pick needs to contribute immediately and at this point I'd say the weakest position on this team is the right side of the O line

A few of the pass rushers I think could contribute Day One, particularly Tim Williams.

I also like Reuben Foster as a potential Day One difference maker at ILB.

OLB(RUSH), ILB, CB in first 3 rounds.

CB, Safety and Wildcard (any position) in 4th round.

NT in 5th round.

That would be a great off-season IMO.

Cheers,

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When was the last time a Colts team drafted a player that wasn't BPA?


We go through this every year and yet you all are surprised when they draft the way that 90% of all good GM's do. BPA

Any year that Chris Polian or Ryan Grigson were leading our draft?

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With that assessment then you agree it should be BPA

Grigson didn't draft BPA. He drafted bad players, mostly.

Wildcard should be a RB in the 4th or 5th.

So in your opinion not drafting BPA was a bad idea.

Glad you agree

I believe drafting the correct intersection of BPA and need is the best idea.

All teams draft BPA according to their board, and lots of people will disagree with each other about who is best. It's a dumb argument.

My strategy would be to get a BPA ranking from all of my staff and then when it comes to the draft pick, take the BPA, unless it's in a position you're already strong in. If that's the case, trade down.

Yes trade if possible... but what if you cant trade? Take the player you want even if he's graded at 8-10 players later, or do you take BPA at another position?

I wonder how big their "bucket" is when it comes to grouping talent for BPA?

In the first round, my guess is that the round is grouped AT LEAST into thirds. Top ten, middle ten, bottom third. Finding someone as BPA from your general position is probably pretty easy unless you only judge 10 guys as 1st round talent which I don't think is the case in this draft class.

However, in lower rounds, how closely do you think they group folks? By round? By half round (top half 3rd round, bottom half 3rd round)? By third of a round still?

Your comment of grading someone 10 slots later than your pick. I just wonder how closely the NFL teams grade folks.

Cheers,

Usually they just put round grades on players with an understanding of their positioning in the round. At least that's what everything I've seen, read, and heard about on the subject suggests.

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#Bama LB Reuben Foster had dinner last night with the #Bears staff and is visiting the team today, source says. Chicago picks No. 3.

No way they'd pick him at 3. Maybe they think there's a chance he could fall out of the first round?

More likely that they have a contingency offer for the #3 pick and might be interested in him further down in the first round at, say, #8 - #12.

Cheers,

Also teams wanna get to know players that they are not sure about mentally. Reuben Foster definitely qualifies there.

While we knew it was bad....

Holy crud, that is terrible.

I am SO glad Grigson is gone.

Cheers,

This makes it easier to see all the needs that are left.
That is a HUGE GLARING HOLE at CB

They left out Jones.... Hmmm

agreed, CB is scary thin

Also feel free to remove this post in the Cap Space thread

Maybe Tevaun Mitchel will step up this yr. I think he will make team as depth

As for that chart, it is a pretty good find but I disagree with a few of their assessments.

Backup Left Guard should not be red. Slotting almost any of our offensive linemen into “only one” slot if foolish with how Philbin has stressed flexibility. Whoever of Haeg, Good or Schwenke does not win the starting Right Guard spot will be depth across all spots.

Turbin should be RB2 with the red “roster spot to be filled” as the RB3 spot. While he might get beat out for the duties depending on what else we do in the draft or free agency at RB, he was signed to be that guy.

I could say that same thing about the TE depth chart as the RB one. Swoope is the TE2 unless beat out by someone else. The spot to be filled is TE3.

There is not a better NT available right now (except possibly Hankins) in either free agency or the draft than Woods or Parry. While we need a stud there for the long-term success of the team, thinking that the need will be filled this year is now foolish.

No complaints about ILB or CB. I could argue that Melvin could be our Nickel CB but we need help everywhere at CB so…..

Yeah, Arthur Jones is not listed anywhere on their chart. I wonder if they know something that we do not…. 

Cheers,

Mel Kipers Mock 3.0 ESPN Insider
 

Indianapolis Colts Reuben Foster, ILB, Alabama | Watch highlights Let's be clear here: I don't have Foster, a top-five talent, dropping because of his bizarre combine ejection. He's dropping here because not many teams above the Colts at No. 15 need a true inside linebacker. The Bengals and Saints, for instance, have both signed inside linebackers in free agency. Whichever team takes Foster, though, is getting a big-time, sideline-to-sideline defender with All-Pro potential. Indianapolis has done a solid job of upgrading its roster this offseason, and picking Foster (6-0, 229) is another step toward defensive respectability.

If Foster is there at #15, you pick him without hesitation.

He has the physical skills that the Colts have not had at ILB/MLB since....yeah, I cannot think of another ILB/MLB that Colts have had with his physical skills.

With Foster, it is all about his head. Does he have the mental ability to learn a defense, employ that defense and keep focused on football even in the off season? If the answer to those questions are yes, then you take him.

While I want Pass Rush, Foster would make the entire defense that much better, instantly.

Cheers,

I think I am on the Hassan Riddick bandwagon over Foster

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Colts met with the extremely athletic CB Shaquill Griffin (Central Florida)

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A Colts scout was very attentive to the workout of BC QB Patrick Towels at his pro day:

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A Colts scout spent time with ILB Brian Bell after the Penn State Pro Day:

I like Riddick. I think he could be a defensive mainstay for a decade on whichever team he lands on. If it were the Colts, I would not be disappointed.

However, Foster is heads and shoulders above Riddick in athleticism. Now, we don't know if Foster's head will ever allow his shoulders to play at that level (okay, bad pun) but if the staff felt like Foster was teachable and trainable, you don't pass him over.

However, I sort of hope that Foster is picked above us so that we don't have to make that decision and we can grab a kid at OLB, ILB or CB that has their head on straight, has great character & leadership and great (if not titanic) physical skills.

Cheers,

It appears to be ILB Brandon Bell from Penn State and he is projected as a 7th rounder or UDFA. Nothing special that I can see from any of the quick looking I just did.

Cheers,

I'm not there yet, but I'm starting to hear this one out (and the only ILB I'd consider over Foster even in conversation).

nice graphic wyatt. wow on CB, I knew we were thin, but...

The thing with Riddick is that he can move to a rush position on passing downs, which adds some value. Frankly, I'm not sure he's an ILB at all from the tape I've seen of him. Sure, he'll get pushed around a bit in the run game, but there's a lot of Robert Mathis in him coming off the edge. Why waste that at ILB on run downs?

I've watched Brandon Bell play many times. He's a damn good ILB, who I wouldn't mind seeing as a Colt.

Then I hope he goes undrafted because unless we trade down we have no 6th or 7th round pick to use on him.

Cheers,

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