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albany ed 03-07-2022 10:39 AM

I believe March 18 is the drop dead date for CW's money to kick in. If they could trade him before then, it would be cool. If they can't trade him, I'm not in favor of just releasing him to save that money. I'd say trade or keep is my feeling. If you release him, you're not going to replace him with a SB caliber QB, so why bother?

Brylok 03-07-2022 12:03 PM

Two more weeks of this crap. Can't wait.

Oldcolt 03-07-2022 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brylok (Post 225143)
Two more weeks of this crap. Can't wait.

These last few weeks have been the definition of nobody knows nothing. Yet everyone (I am alluding to sports talking heads, not freaks. We get to talk about shit we know nothing about all the time-like this opinion of mine. Otherwise what is the use of this forum?) talks as if they 'know' Wentz is gone. I think the reality is exactly what the Colts have said, they are making up their minds as I write this. That in and of itself is a damning admission to Wentz, and the Colts know that. The fact that they have let it be known that they have recently met with Wentz, with nothing leaking that it was a meeting to tell him he was gone, indicates to me that they are still making up their minds. The Colts front office does not seem like they would play games with the man, if they brought him in to talk they still are looking at him as an option. I would expect that talking to Wentz would be one of the last things they would do, after evaluation of what is available, before they make their decisions. I would think that if they wanted another QB on another team now is the time to call and see what it costs. I don't like this situation at all, the front office screwed up big time by trading for this asshole. I do, however, love how what appears to be the process that they are going through to find out what the best course of action is. Maybe a better way of stating that is what is the least shitty course of action available. I hope they can pull this off but it is a heavy lift.

Whatever decision the Colts make will be very easy to criticize. They don't have a good a good one.

rcubed 03-07-2022 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 225155)
the front office screwed up big time by trading for this asshole. .

I was alright with them giving wentza shot. I thought, as some did, that a new team with reich might reset wentz to an extent.

The problem was the compensation, we gave up too much. It sounds like we basically bid against ourselves and ballard got fleeced a bit. But, I guess that will happen when trading for a starting QB. Hopefully ballard can navigate a way out of this mess but I dont really see how, in the short term at least.

Oldcolt 03-07-2022 04:26 PM

I also was ok with them giving him a chance. I was wrong also, but in my defense I am not a professional evaluator with the resources the Colts have. To me it is how the decision ended up. For whatever reason I think it turned out to be a shitty decision, one I probably would have made. Just because I would have made the same decision doesn't mean it wasn't a shitty one. I make plenty of shitty decisions.

Ironshaft 03-07-2022 04:58 PM

In the end, Ballard's QB decisions have been:

Year 1 - 2019 - Roll with Jacoby Biscuit because his superstar QB retired 2 weeks before the season.

Year 2 - 2020 - Sign an effective but aged Phillip Rivers. Turned out Phil could still be effective and we made the playoffs. Lots of warts but he played well in his twilight season.

Year 3 - 2021 - Trade for wonderkid potential in Carson Wentz. Thought it would be effective but was shown that it was not.

Year 4 - 2022 - ???

For as much as I want to rail at Andrew Luck for retiring, I cannot. These guys are modern day gladiators out here selling their health for our entertainment. I could argue that the HOW he did it sucked but the why? Yeah, not me to judge.

JB had every chance to show that he deserved the starting job and flubbed his season long audition.

PR was an aging wonder who did well but at the end, was on his last tank of gas. Solid move by Ballard that gave us a great chance to win but not a deep playoff run.

CW? Yeah, miss. He has it all except the most important 6 inches between his ears. I saw multiple young QBs in the playoffs WILL their teams to scores in the waning seconds of their games. They said "put the team on my shoulders" and they delivered time and again. I saw that and knew that CW is not that guy.

In the end, do I blame Ballard and Reich for the loss of resources we traded away for an ineffective player? Yeah, but I don't blame them much. It was a good gamble to take and it just did not pay off.

But I don't blame Ballard for trying. He has been trying to fix QB ever since Luck retired and has tried to do it pretty well. He just rolled snake eyes on Wentz.

Puck 03-07-2022 05:25 PM

Maybe give Wentz some weapons plus protection and let him play to his strengths. Which is not the short passing game IMO.

rcubed 03-07-2022 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 225170)
These guys are modern day gladiators out here selling their health for our entertainment.

wellllll....there is that $109M

Oldcolt 03-07-2022 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 225177)
wellllll....there is that $109M

Not a heck of a lot of fun spending it if CTE is your reality. Whatever these guys are paid is fine with me considering the chances they take with the state of their future minds. They are not compensated enough in my view.

njcoltfan 03-08-2022 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ironshaft (Post 225170)
In the end, Ballard's QB decisions have been:

Year 1 - 2019 - Roll with Jacoby Biscuit because his superstar QB retired 2 weeks before the season.

Year 2 - 2020 - Sign an effective but aged Phillip Rivers. Turned out Phil could still be effective and we made the playoffs. Lots of warts but he played well in his twilight season.

Year 3 - 2021 - Trade for wonderkid potential in Carson Wentz. Thought it would be effective but was shown that it was not.

Year 4 - 2022 - ???

For as much as I want to rail at Andrew Luck for retiring, I cannot. These guys are modern day gladiators out here selling their health for our entertainment. I could argue that the HOW he did it sucked but the why? Yeah, not me to judge.

JB had every chance to show that he deserved the starting job and flubbed his season long audition.

PR was an aging wonder who did well but at the end, was on his last tank of gas. Solid move by Ballard that gave us a great chance to win but not a deep playoff run.

CW? Yeah, miss. He has it all except the most important 6 inches between his ears. I saw multiple young QBs in the playoffs WILL their teams to scores in the waning seconds of their games. They said "put the team on my shoulders" and they delivered time and again. I saw that and knew that CW is not that guy.

In the end, do I blame Ballard and Reich for the loss of resources we traded away for an ineffective player? Yeah, but I don't blame them much. It was a good gamble to take and it just did not pay off.

But I don't blame Ballard for trying. He has been trying to fix QB ever since Luck retired and has tried to do it pretty well. He just rolled snake eyes on Wentz.

I kind of agree, but if Ballard brings Wentz back, and he has another shitty year, both Ballard and Wentz should be sent packing !!! Its going on 4 years since Luck left and the Colt's are still just treading water in search of a QB.


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