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Brylok 02-18-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 187180)
If wentz plays well it will be worth it. If he plays well, that pick is in the 20’s.

I've definitely warmed up to it in the last couple of hours. We aren't risking too much, and there's potential for great return on the investment. Let's go

apballin 02-18-2021 04:39 PM

I like it, former #2 overall and last year was a shit show in Philly, he had no WRs and his Oline was banged up and Clowney speared him early in the year giving him a nasty concussion. The times I seen Philly play last year it looked like he was trying to play hero ball. Fresh start with a solid line some decent weapons and a familiar coach. We don’t need him to be a hero we just need him to put up 30 tds and limit the turnovers

Chaka 02-18-2021 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by smitty46953 (Post 187225)
Eagles must really want Wentz gone to eat a $33.82 million dollar cap hit. I am all for Reich fixing this dude, just hope not a head case. Now can use the 2021 1st #21 on a LT or edge depending on UFA signings. Pretty sure Ballard, Reich and that ex green beret (Brian Decker) spent plenty of time in Wentz's brain insuring he is ready. :cool:

I read it more as prudent cap management by the Eagles. They were on the hook for roughly the same $33.82M cap hit if he stayed (actually slightly more), but they'd burn another $30M or so in 2022 cap space by allowing him to do so. If they were ready to move on to Hurts, it just makes sense to get rid of him regardless of whether they think he's a head case or not. That pressure on the Eagles is a big part of why I expected a lower return for him.

Chromeburn 02-18-2021 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 187206)
The best thing is, I don't have to read anymore about Dammy praising the greatness of Mac Jones.

Hahaha I heard a comparison of Jones to Chad Pennington pre-injury. And I kinda like that comparison.

rcubed 02-18-2021 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 187221)
If he sucks, you don't play him for 75% of the games, and you don't lose a first rounder. I can't understand why you guys all think that if he sucks we'd still let him play?

so its either he sucks or SB? no in between? no possible way he plays well enough to be in games but not necessarily win them? no way we go 9-7, he plays over 75% snaps and lose our first?

rcubed 02-18-2021 05:35 PM

overall I think this is a good trade and probably worth the risk. I just worry about being mediocre and losing a first for it.

JAFF 02-18-2021 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 187238)
overall I think this is a good trade and probably worth the risk. I just worry about being mediocre and losing a first for it.

Its an equitable deal. If the Colts win with Wentz, the Eagles win. If Wentz fails, then the cost is minimal to the Colts still have top draft picks to work with.

Ballard and Reich have bet on Wentz, but they didnt bet the house

Racehorse 02-18-2021 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 187212)
If he sucks then we bench him and keep our 1st rounder. The bigger risk is if he's just ok and we finish ~.500 b/c then he's probably starting for the whole year and we lose mid 1st rounder.

Unless we go wildcat on third downs all year

Brylok 02-18-2021 05:53 PM

Wentz is risking his career by coming to indianapolis. If he fails here, he's finished. That's probably why he said he'd only go to the Colts; trusting Frank Reich to sort him out. It should be extra motivation for him to succeed.

Oldcolt 02-18-2021 06:05 PM

I have heard that this was Ballards original offer. If true, this is very good for the Colts. Ballard doesn't try to fleece people. He is an honest broker and doesn't get fleeced himself. Players, gms and agents know this. It makes Indianapolis a place that players want to come to (in and of itself that is an amazing feat) and teams are willing to work with. The future is bright for this team.


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