Yeah, exactly. He definitely gets his team worked up/amped for games, which works out for better and worse. His teams play with far more fire than Pagano’s milquetoast dreary flat teams, but that often leads to them having stupid penalties and gaffes and overlooking opponents due to cockiness. It’s also impossible to sustain that level of intensity, so they’ll have flat games at times (like the one where they played WAY down to the competition against the Colts this year) while also coming out like gangbusters against other teams that they’re hyped for...

I mean, again, i’d definitely take Tomlin over Pagano, but I agree with the prevailing thought that it wouldn’t be the correct direction for us to steer the ship overall.

Too much inbreeding, the move to rehash failed coaches is ridiculous.

Here is a good article from RATS: https://www.indystar.com/story/sport...daystopstories

While it is still a crapshoot, I like our odds with this guy better and better the more I read about him. This article and the fact that Ballard has been working on his relationship with him and Patriots all year (think Ballard didn't know he was going to fire Pagano all year?) is very encouraging. To have the front office and coaching staff on the same page will be amazing for us after the shit show we just live thru.

I'd guess the potential is here for the GM and HC to be even more in sync than the best of the Dungy/Polian days. Think about how much Polian ignored repeated, critical deficiencies on the defensive roster, year after year. All those years he needed his Sapp, or at least his Booger McFarland, and Polian couldn't or wouldn't deliver the key piece to make that defense work. Do you think that was done w/Dungy's blessing? Doubt it.

If he were available, I wouldn't pass on Wade Phillips as my DC. Would you? He's a failed coach.

Obviously as a DC anyone would take Phillips. But never again as a HC.

They were talking about Tomlin on Grady and Big Joe today.....more to your claim that he's undisciplined....they were saying that Bell showed up to the last game against the Jags just 5 min before they were due on the field to warm up. Big Joe said that most teams have players arrive 2 hours before game time. Further it's been shared that Bell and others are routinely late for practices, etc without seeming consequence. We've had too much "players coach" for my taste. Time to have some real accountability so sign me up as a big hell no for Tomlin as well. That said, Squeelers aren't firing him.

Exactly, plenty of really good coordinators are awful HCs

Pagano agrees,whether he knows it or not