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DrSpaceman 01-09-2018 11:47 PM

I interpret "all in" to mean they knew he was the guy and wanted him, and if that's the case, by definition, they would have made an offer.

So something doesn't add up there.

Gimmick 01-09-2018 11:48 PM

Nagy isn't ready anyway. Bears are going to suck.

Gimmick 01-09-2018 11:48 PM

I really get the feeling the Colts are a headless organization right now. Probably not going to change as long as Irsay is running it.

VeveJones007 01-10-2018 12:05 AM

Hub Arkush from PFW says that his sources indicate that it’ll be McDaniels in Indy.

Gimmick 01-10-2018 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 51014)
Hub Arkush from PFW says that his sources indicate that it’ll be McDaniels in Indy.

McDaniels is a good pick but damnit fuckit I hate the cheaters.

Discflinger 01-10-2018 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 50974)
Ballard seems to be a man of his word and is keeping a very tight lid on leeks and it seems to really bother JMV that he's not getting anything of substance from his "sources".

Keeping a tight lid on the leeks is essential in cooking. Bravo, Ballard! How's that for substance, JMV?

1965southpaw 01-10-2018 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Discflinger (Post 51019)
Keeping a tight lid on the leeks is essential in cooking. Bravo, Ballard! How's that for substance, JMV?

Lol....I ate a lot of leeks when I lived in England many moons ago.....as for leaks well I for one am not unhappy he's running a tighter ship.

FatDT 01-10-2018 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 51014)
Hub Arkush from PFW says that his sources indicate that it’ll be McDaniels in Indy.

Was that a recent tweet?

Pez 01-10-2018 07:28 AM

The perceived delay in news points toward their candidate being among the teams still in the playoffs, which suggests McDaniels.

albany ed 01-10-2018 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 51008)
I interpret "all in" to mean they knew he was the guy and wanted him, and if that's the case, by definition, they would have made an offer.

So something doesn't add up there.

Wasn't the origin of this story from a Chicago sportswriter? One way to put a good spin on the hiring by the Bears, would be to say that the Colts were all in and that Nagy chose the Bears as the better prospect.

Racehorse 01-10-2018 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by albany ed (Post 51034)
Wasn't the origin of this story from a Chicago sportswriter? One way to put a good spin on the hiring by the Bears, would be to say that the Colts were all in and that Nagy chose the Bears as the better prospect.

If Nagy actually said that, then he obviously isn't HC material.

VeveJones007 01-10-2018 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FatDT (Post 51029)
Was that a recent tweet?

He said it on 670am yesterday.

dwilli57 01-10-2018 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 51015)
McDaniels is a good pick but damnit fuckit I hate the cheaters.

I agree...just hope it'd be more like a Vintieri than the production they got from a Duane Allen.

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Oldcolt 01-10-2018 11:27 AM

I'll be happy, at least at first, with anybody but Pagano. I like the fact that the Colts have been very quiet in their search. Ballard has even managed to keep Irsay quiet. If Irsay is really letting Ballard run this thing (and is seems he is) it bodes well for us Colt fans.

HoosierinFL 01-10-2018 04:21 PM

So Kris Richard has been fired by Seattle. We may not have picked him up as HC, but I wonder if he'd make a good DC for us now? I didn't think he'd make a lateral move but now that Seattle has fired him, he'll be looking.
This is esp interesting with the speculation that Ballard wants to run a 4-3 with cover-3 zone ala what Seattle has been doing.

Also I agree with a prev post - the fact that we have no hiring yet suggests that Ballard's candidate is still on a playoff team

FatDT 01-10-2018 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 51105)
So Kris Richard has been fired by Seattle. We may not have picked him up as HC, but I wonder if he'd make a good DC for us now? I didn't think he'd make a lateral move but now that Seattle has fired him, he'll be looking.
This is esp interesting with the speculation that Ballard wants to run a 4-3 with cover-3 zone ala what Seattle has been doing.

Also I agree with a prev post - the fact that we have no hiring yet suggests that Ballard's candidate is still on a playoff team

The flip side to this idea is that Richard underwhelmed while overseeing one of the best defenses of the last decade. I know there are injuries. But he had plenty of stars still healthy but especially at home Seattle played below their standard. And with the way two veterans in Earl Thomas and Bobby Wagner were publicly bitching at each other I'm not convinced he lead the defense well or was respected.

And then there's the fact that he was fired. I don't see a compelling reason to want him here unless it's as a DB coach. From an outside perspective it looks like he wasn't ready to be a DC and he needs to pay some more dues before getting another chance.

rcubed 01-10-2018 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HoosierinFL (Post 51105)
So Kris Richard has been fired by Seattle. We may not have picked him up as HC, but I wonder if he'd make a good DC for us now? I didn't think he'd make a lateral move but now that Seattle has fired him, he'll be looking.
This is esp interesting with the speculation that Ballard wants to run a 4-3 with cover-3 zone ala what Seattle has been doing.

Also I agree with a prev post - the fact that we have no hiring yet suggests that Ballard's candidate is still on a playoff team

I wonder if its already been agreed upon in principle with mcdaniels

rcubed 01-10-2018 05:24 PM

according to this we might have interviewed someone on monday that hasnt been reported on.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...hing-candidate

VeveJones007 01-10-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by rcubed (Post 51130)
according to this we might have interviewed someone on monday that hasnt been reported on.

https://www.stampedeblue.com/2018/1/...hing-candidate

Toub is the most likely scenario, but could be anyone.

1965southpaw 01-10-2018 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 51144)
Toub is the most likely scenario, but could be anyone.

Kravitz is on JMV right now and he said that his information is that the Colts haven't even asked permission yet to interview Toub. That said, he quickly went on to say that the colts organization are on information lockdown and he may have in fact interviewed and the media just don't know about it. In other news he said he's hearing that McDaniels is cooling down on his interest in the colts based on continued questions on Luck's health.

Coltsalr 01-10-2018 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by VeveJones007 (Post 51144)
Toub is the most likely scenario, but could be anyone.

I would think they would’ve filed the interview request with the Chiefs and that would’ve been leaked.

I’m not sure why they’d hide an interview with Toub.

Coltsalr 01-10-2018 07:45 PM

Uh, whoever had the Baylor head coach as your pick for the mystery interview candidate, come forward and collect your prize:

SOURCES: Baylor coach Matt Rhule interviewed for the Indianapolis Colts head coaching vacancy earlier this week. Rhule, who completed his first season with the Bears in November, spent the 2012 season as the New York Giants offensive line coach.

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40015230-4

This is just bizarre. Not even the Browns have to reach so low for a sub 500 college coach. Just what the fuck is going on here?

YDFL Commish 01-10-2018 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltsalr (Post 51165)
Uh, whoever had the Baylor head coach as your pick for the mystery interview candidate, come forward and collect your prize:

SOURCES: Baylor coach Matt Rhule interviewed for the Indianapolis Colts head coaching vacancy earlier this week. Rhule, who completed his first season with the Bears in November, spent the 2012 season as the New York Giants offensive line coach.

http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-40015230-4

This is just bizarre. Not even the Browns have to reach so low for a sub 500 college coach. Just what the fuck is going on here?

Rhule is a good coach. He had Temple playing at a high level before he left.

Baylor was in a a hell of a bad situation after the Art Briles fiasco.

FatDT 01-10-2018 08:34 PM

No thanks on the college coach.

Hoopsdoc 01-10-2018 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 51166)
Rhule is a good coach. He had Temple playing at a high level before he left.

Baylor was in a a hell of a bad situation after the Art Briles fiasco.

I’ve been half expecting a dark horse hire. Someone like this dude who I’ve never heard of.

As others have mentioned, it is encouraging that there have been no leaks. Seems like they’re doing this right.

Butter 01-10-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 51174)

As others have mentioned, it is encouraging that there have been no leaks. Seems like they’re doing this right.

I agree this shows Ballard is in control of his house.

GoBigBlue88 01-10-2018 09:09 PM

Look, I'm not going to be "out" if anyone is hired outside of Pagano being re-hired, basically. And I think most people don't really know shit about what coaches can or can't do anyway.

But I have to admit, I would be discouraged if Rhule was the guy.

Hoopsdoc 01-10-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Butter (Post 51176)
I agree this shows Ballard is in control of his house.

My guess is he acquired the mother of all stashes to keep Jimmy occupied while he does his job.

Dewey 5 01-10-2018 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 1965southpaw (Post 51157)
Kravitz is on JMV right now and he said that his information is that the Colts haven't even asked permission yet to interview Toub. That said, he quickly went on to say that the colts organization are on information lockdown and he may have in fact interviewed and the media just don't know about it. In other news he said he's hearing that McDaniels is cooling down on his interest in the colts based on continued questions on Luck's health.

The news about McDaniels potentially backing out is depressing.

IndyNorm 01-10-2018 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 51193)
The news about McDaniels potentially backing out is depressing.

When you consider his previous HC experience along with the 100% non-success rate of Belicheat assistants we're probably better off without him, but it definitely is concerning if it's b/c of Luck's health. Pure speculation but maybe that was what made Nagy "uncomfortable" with the Colts interview if he was getting the run around on Luck's situation.

sherck 01-10-2018 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dewey 5 (Post 51193)
The news about McDaniels potentially backing out is depressing.

Its not really news. News is something that can be verified. This is one guy's "hot take" on a situation that he probably has little to no insight into.

As we would say in the intelligence community. a single source does not an analysis make.

Walk Worthy,

Puck 01-10-2018 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyNorm (Post 51195)
When you consider his previous HC experience along with the 100% non-success rate of Belicheat assistants we're probably better off without him, but it definitely is concerning if it's b/c of Luck's health. Pure speculation but maybe that was what made Nagy "uncomfortable" with the Colts interview if he was getting the run around on Luck's situation.

I think people forget about Bill Obrien. I'd take him as HC
If Watson hadn't gotten hurt they may have competed for the 1-2 seed this yr

1965southpaw 01-11-2018 12:48 AM

https://sports.yahoo.com/could-josh-...171221395.html

FatDT 01-11-2018 01:48 AM

Bunch of speculative BS.

rcubed 01-11-2018 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 51166)
Rhule is a good coach. He had Temple playing at a high level before he left.

Baylor was in a a hell of a bad situation after the Art Briles fiasco.

Could just be Ballard feeling him out for a possible spot other than HC. Position coach maybe.

Gimmick 01-11-2018 02:58 AM

There's a decent chance Luck is done, period. I'm not saying it's a definite, but prepare yourself for the possibility. I think it's 50/50 at this point.

Irsay, Grigson, and Pagano really ****ed up by not protecting the franchise.

DrSpaceman 01-11-2018 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gimmick (Post 51211)
There's a decent chance Luck is done, period. I'm not saying it's a definite, but prepare yourself for the possibility. I think it's 50/50 at this point.

Irsay, Grigson, and Pagano really ****ed up by not protecting the franchise.

Luck is not done.

The worst that happens is he has some lingering pain and plays this year with some lingering soreness and is not 100%. And perhaps he has to continue to play with a somewhat damaged shoulder and learns to compensate.

I would be shocked if he at least does not try to play again though.

Not that they did not screw it all up, they did, but it was less than 50% that Luck does not play again. I'd put it at 1-5%.

IndyNorm 01-11-2018 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 51197)
I think people forget about Bill Obrien. I'd take him as HC
If Watson hadn't gotten hurt they may have competed for the 1-2 seed this yr

My comment was including O'Brien since his NFL record is below .500 and Houston was thinking about moving on at the end of the season. Good point on Watson. Not sure if they'd be a top playoff seed, but I'm sure O'Brien would be slightly above .500 than below. If I had to hire a Belicheat assistant and he was available I would definitely go with him.

VeveJones007 01-11-2018 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sherck (Post 51196)
Its not really news. News is something that can be verified. This is one guy's "hot take" on a situation that he probably has little to no insight into.

As we would say in the intelligence community. a single source does not an analysis make.

Walk Worthy,

While I agree that true news has to be verifiable, it's hardly a "hot take" if Kravitz has a source giving him this info. I didn't hear the interview, but that's the way it read to me.

Racehorse 01-11-2018 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpaceman (Post 51225)
Luck is not done.

The worst that happens is he has some lingering pain and plays this year with some lingering soreness and is not 100%. And perhaps he has to continue to play with a somewhat damaged shoulder and learns to compensate.

I would be shocked if he at least does not try to play again though.

Not that they did not screw it all up, they did, but it was less than 50% that Luck does not play again. I'd put it at 1-5%.

Exactly! A player has to go through practices and games to fully trust his body again. Right now, he is not able to do so. Once he gets his PT done and all, he will be back on track. After that, it is up to the four inches between the ears. Irsay alluded to that being the biggest issue. It wouldn't surprise me if that is some of what he was doing in Europe to rehab those four inches as well as the rest.


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