The video literally says "every throw" and I didn't make it. How is that cherry picking? But please, by all means, cherry pick if you must, show me even one bad CJ Stroud game.

Northwestern.

Yep. Although there may be one that turns out pretty good. But not worth trading up for.

Sit at 4 and see what happens. Can trade back and collect draft picks and roll with Sam and get the #1 for 2024 and get Williams

Although I am intrigued by AR15. He could possibly be had in the 2nd. and also Hooker in the 3rd

i approve this plan.

There’s rumblings now that Stroud could possibly return to school.

By the 2024 draft everyone will hate Caleb Williams and say he folds under pressure or can't improvise or something. You're almost never going to get the perfect prospect according to everyone, and sometimes when you do *cough*TrevorLawrence*cough*, it's not necessarily a good thing. Burrow is the only top QB in the NFL today that was universally thought to be the best player in his draft.

That would be the worst possible thing for the Colts.

I saw 4 bad throws and at least 5 drops of perfectly thrown balls. Most of Ohio State's struggles on offense in that game boiled down to them being unable to convert 3rd and short with their running game. If that's the worst of CJ Stroud it reinforces my opinion that the Colts should trade up for him.

Dude, don't hug his balls so hard, he can't breath.

Reports are starting to come out that Stroud is staying another year at Ohio State. So now what, suck again next year for the wonder kid?

He threw for 76 fuk'n yards, he was 10 of 26 against the 83rd ranked defense in the country. You gotta be kidding me that we should trade up for this dude.

I'm going to bet you a snickers bar that Will Levis will be the best QB in this draft.

The options at that point are trade up to 1 for Young or go back to the QB fixer upper market.

He also ran for another 70ish yards and had about 120ish yards worth of throws dropped. I didn't say he looked great in that game, but if that's the floor, it's a good floor.

We agree Young has talent, no denying it. His size scares the living shit out of me. I am all for trading back, or taking a stud pass rusher. Lets face it, a QB alone is not fixing this fucking train wreck. Go O-line in 2nd. round.

Irsay, Ballard, Saturday, and Sam will get us the #1 pick next season. I'm kidding/not kidding.

Will Levis does nothing for me. I know I’m not overly impressed by Stroud, but Levis does nothing at all for me.

I can see the talent in Anthony Richardson but I don’t have the appetite for a project player.

I’d just as soon nab Will Anderson and suck ass (again) and get Caleb Williams in 2024.

You know everyone will hate Williams next year the way they hate Stroud now, right? He's also a Lincoln Riley QB, which is a huge risk factor.

He is also losing WR's by the buckets, they may not be the offensive light show they were this year which would knock his stock.

According to David Kaplan, Colts are offering Pittman, another player and next years first and are in love with Levis

Yuck

Going to try to go the highly intelligent, big stand in the pocket throw darts route again. We have the worst OL in the NFL. Sacked into submission is my expectation.

Strikes me as precisely the type of guy Ballard would covet because of his "traits" without any consideration for the team as a whole. Pittman is a solid # 2, so yeah, let's reduce the weaponry for a rookie QB- Genius! Hey, let's let Campbell walk while we're at it.

I don’t know about that. There wasn’t this much hype in 2022 that “Stroud is going to be hands down the guy in 2023!” Caleb Williams has a much higher perch to fall from.

absolutely don't want to trade up

Interesting. That's a lot to give up for this class. But if you want a guy, especially if Stroud decides to return to OSU, it's a bad ratios of QBs : QB-needy teams that you have to stay ahead of.

I think Levis is going to be very good, just my opinion based on what I have seen and a consensus of expert opinions that I have read and heard. But it is always a crap shoot, but unlikely that all of the top 5 or 6 prospects will be a bust, the question is which one is going to be exceptional?

I still stand behind what I have said. I would not trade draft stock for any of them. However, Levis is the most NFL ready QB in this draft. Young is way to fucking small and like Stroud is surrounded by blue chip players who make their lives easier on the field. Levis playing at KY has played with some so-so players, JUCO and DII transfers and made them better. He stronger, mentally and physically than the other 2.

So....thoughts of trading up for the #1 pick?
 

No trading up. If its levis at 4, ok, take your shot with a rookie QB. I wont fault ballard for that if he doesnt pan out. But it doesn’t seem any of the top QBs are worth giving up future capital

No. They have to take a quarterback.

Rolling with Sam isn’t a viable option.

We aren’t the Cowboys. Colts fans won’t stick around for another season of suck, unless there’s a young highly drafted quarterback playing.

It's that last part that's concerning.

Agreed. Let's go from a bad WR room to a terrible WR room. That would be great for a rookie QB :cool:

None worth taking at 4 IMO. ANd damn sure not wanting to trade up to get one. Take Anderson and then Richardson in the 2nd or Hookerr in the 3rd.

Having to take a QB is not true at all. There are FA QB's out there also. You can't waste a #4 pick on a less than elite QB.

If Ballard is that confident in one of these guys. It will either make or break him.

I wouldn't do it

Trade away your best receiver for a rookie qb. Who is he going to throw to?

Let me be Ballard for a minute:

Matt Pryor is going to be our WR1 in 2023

This is of course said in a raspy somewhat southern drawl with a nice concentration of sarcasm intended to serve notice to his haters that he had a plan all along- you / we, we were just too stupid to not see his genius until it all unfolded.

Let’s raise our glasses to kicking everyone’s asses

Richardson will not be there in the 2nd. i am thinking i like the idea of just staying put and taking richardson at 4. sure he could bust but he could also be amazing. there is a lot to work with there and at the very least it should be fun

That's where I am as well. Try like hell to re-create Josh Allen. Hell if he can become a wish Randall Cunningham- let's just go with it. DO NOT GIVE UP ANY FUCKING OFFENSIVE SKILL POSITIONS TO MOVE UP FOR ANY OF THESE DUDES! Does no fucking good to get some project QB (in some respects all of the top 4 are) and dilute their weaponry.

If they get the wrong QB, what does it matter? Moving to 1 is necessary if Stroud declares, and even more necessary if he doesn't, to ensure the Colts get the best QB.

As for your question, there are other weapons on this offense, there's the free agent market, and there's the other draft picks the Colts have as well. If all that's given up to move from 4 to 1 is Pittman and next year's 1, that's a coup.

Pittman wants to leave. I read that days ago, but I don't recall where.

If Pittman wants to leave, that is fine, someone can give us a high round pick, he is a proven commodity. But i really don't want to trade up in this draft for any of these QB's. This year's class in my opinion, could be as bad as last years.

Don’t blame him. Probably would like to run more than just slants.

Before I traded future draft capitol I would take a stud pass rusher, grab Stetson Bennet in the 2nd. round. Yea he is 25, but that is still 12-13 years of good football for todays QB's as they are protected like national treasures. He has won two national titles and can make every throw. He is just as likely to be a good QB as any of the top 4 in the draft. When everything has bust potential written all over it, I would rather it be a 2nd. round bust. He will be there with our first pick in the 2nd.

He’s a Cali boy wouldn’t surprise me if he wanted to go back out west, and if we’re not gonna pay him might as well get something for him