Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 217876)

Because that was the collective agreement between the NFL and the players association. It is as simple as that.

Why would the two sides agree to that? Because the only way to get healthy relatively young individuals who are notoriously self focused to do anything is to make it advantageous for them to do it. Left alone I can almost guarantee NFL players would have a significantly lower vaccination rate that the US population. That isn’t good for the NFL, that isn’t good for the players, and it isn’t good for society as a whole. So they have used a carrot and a stick to the best of their abilities to convince NFL players to get vaccinations. And they have been largely successful.

This is something that drives me crazy. People bitch and moan about any inconvenience they encounter in the name of protecting people. So we make concessions, try to offer incentives, or lessen the requirements to try to get max compliance and do the most good. Then the same people causing the issue nitpick any inconsistencies within the compromises they caused. So yeah, I agree it isn’t logical. But if the NFL didn’t make it an advantage to be vaccinated I’d almost guarantee the vaccination rate would be half (or less) of what it is. I’m at a loss for how that makes anything better for anyone other than those players selfish enough to refuse the vaccine. Again - those causing the need to compromise then bitch about the situation they caused.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217879)

I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217879)

I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

Originally Posted by Butter (Post 217857)

BS. I don't want Jackasses like Leonard spreading disinformation and discouraging others from being vaccinated. Like it or not they are role models. I work in healthcare in a role very much impacted by the pandemic and my everyday life has been impacted for going on two years because idiots won't get the poke or do the bare minimum to help reduce the spread. I dread every day going to work to deal with the shit show it has become. So fuck you and fuck all the morons who won't do a simple thing to help their community.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217867)

I get everything you are saying. I do.

So the CDC just lowered the isolation period to 5 days from 10. The NFL is suppose to jump on that as of tomorrow.

Here is the tricky part. It says only 5 days isolation and then 5 days of wearing a mask. So how will this work for the NFL? NBA? etc. Are the players going to wear a mask for 5 days after isolation OR are they just going to ignore that part and get away without wearing it so we have players on the field?

Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 217868)

You can be pissed that the unvaccinated Colt players are losing a competitive advantage and at the same time think they are irresponsible towards their community for not being vaccinated. I agree with the first statement (I'm not sure how you can not think it is a competitive disadvantage not to be vaccinated) but am not willing to make that judgement on players like Leonard. I'm not sure why he didn't get vaccinated and it isn't any of my business as long as he or others are willing to take the consequences.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217879)

I could be wrong but as of tomorrow there is no advantage to players to be vaccinated anymore. Both Vax and Unvax can come back in 5 days if asymptomatic. Thats what I read now, but I am sure there will be some more negotiations that will still favor the Vaxed

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 217894)

I have said it before and I will ay it again. A lot of blacks do not trust the medical advice because of the Tuskegee Experiment. I do not blame them.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 217895)

I don’t believe that this has been implemented yet, although everyone seems to think it will be shortly.

If I’m not mistaken, I believe the Colts could theoretically get everyone back for Sunday if this new policy is put in place, unless the policy only applies to those who test positive AFTER the new policy goes into effect.

If that’s the case, nothing changes and we’re still screwed for Sunday.

Plus, I still fully believe Wentz will test positive before this is all over.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 217894)

I have said it before, and I will say it again ...... a lot of Blacks do not trust the medical advice because of the Tuskegee Experiment. I do not blame them.

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 217905)

Monstrous. I bet that it is never taught in schools either, when discussing WW-2.

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 217929)

Carson Wentz was just added to the list according to Fox 59

Originally Posted by Lov2fish (Post 217929)

Carson Wentz was just added to the list according to Fox 59

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 217928)

Unsurprisingly, now wentz on the Covid list

Originally Posted by Chromeburn (Post 217932)

And there it is. Once those guys were on the plane together, that was it.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217930)

Yep. They haven't released if he has it or close contact. Either way if the NFLPA agrees to the new CDC recommendations he can still play Sunday

Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 217931)

Heard a really interesting if somewhat conspiratorial take on this on the radio yesterday. I guess the rule is that once you have tested positive and cleared, you do not require a new test within 90 days. Thus some are speculating there may be some purposeful "positives" taking place right now to ensure that 2 games before a playoff game, a champ game, or the night before the SB, your guy won't come down with the surprise covid case.

It is interesting that there are some really big names out there that have not been positive yet and if this theory is correct, could end up being playoff casualties.

What a strange strange season.

Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc (Post 217935)

Also, since he tested positive today, he’s definitely out for the raiders game, even if they change it to 5 days of isolation.

Sam Ehlinger, come on down.

Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217933)

But that also includes everyone else that was on the plane. Whether vaxed or not. Close contact is close contact

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 217944)

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Well, if Wentz winds up missing the Raiders game, I presume that the Colts would be "running the damned ball" a lot.

That's the good news ...... the bad news is that the Raiders would obviously be expecting it, and subsequently concentrating on stopping it (the run game) a lot more than stopping the pass with Wentz not being on the field.

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 217944)

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Well, if Wentz winds up missing the Raiders game, I presume that the Colts would be "running the damned ball" a lot.

That's the good news ...... the bad news is that the Raiders would obviously be expecting it, and subsequently concentrating on stopping it (the run game) a lot more than stopping the pass with Wentz not being on the field.

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Originally Posted by Puck (Post 217937)

They test on Mondays. They are not even in the building to be tested today. So those results were from yesterday they just didn't release until today. This late reporting happens quite often.

Originally Posted by AlwaysSunnyinIndy (Post 217948)

They test more often than just Mondays.

Unvaccinated players get tested every day of the week at the team facility or at an approved alternative testing location.

Originally Posted by Racehorse (Post 217894)

I have said it before and I will ay it again. A lot of blacks do not trust the medical advice because of the Tuskegee Experiment. I do not blame them.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 217960)

And due to mandatory school vaccinations of ALL school children we are close to eliminating mumps, measles and rubella from the PLANET. No one has had polio or small pox in decades. Tuskegee occurred 70 years ago. Two major viruses have been eliminated since then. Its a nonsense excuse.

Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 217946)

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Subsequently, perhaps we could throw in a few trick plays ....... something like pitching the ball to Jonathan Taylor as if running a sweep play, but instead have Taylor take a couple of steps backward and throw the ball downfield to a wide-open receiver.

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Originally Posted by Drewtone (Post 217965)

Jaff, that's a really poor argument given that the MMR vaccine had 12-years' data collected before it was initially mandated for school children back in the '60's.

Why don't you check sub-sarahan Africa and chunks of India for more recent examples of 'less-than-favorable' outcomes from western vaccination initiatives.

Originally Posted by ChaosTheory (Post 217986)

You don't say! Haha. PR only gets you so far, huh?

Maybe Brady will test positive a day before a playoff game and they'll change the protocol to, "Do you feel ok enough to play?". Then the charade will end.

Originally Posted by JAFF (Post 217979)

Thats not the vaccine, that is the inability of those governments to get their act together. Its a multiple shot regiment over several years. Lousy infrastructure and poor records keeping/document access and not all kids are getting what they need.

Originally Posted by rm1369 (Post 217987)

And you’d be complaining if they didn’t adjust to the new CDC guidelines.