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ChaosTheory 12-01-2023 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by njcoltfan (Post 284658)
Mannings comeback over the Buc's, to me at least, was much more historic than any of Reichs.

The word "historic" is probably always going in favor of the '92 Bills and '16 Patriots due to the playoffs/Super Bowl. We've had several games in a vacuum that you could argue were more improbable...

'03 game against TB is possibly the most improbable comeback ever. 21 points in less than 4 minutes against the SB champs who won specifically because of that defense... insane.

Another one that doesn't get talked about as much was '08 vs. HOU, down 27-10 with like 4:05 left. Our D-line destroyed Sage Rosenfels twice and the O capitalized.

'09 game vs. NE, down 17 at one point... NE just added a FG to make their lead 13 with just over 4 minutes left. The 4th-and-2 game.

The '13 playoffs vs. KC, still IND's biggest comeback, still 2nd biggest in playoff history.

And while it wasn't a huge comeback... the '09 game against MIA is one of the most improbable wins ever. 27 points with less than 14:53 TOP. Worth sprinkling in here.

Oldcolt 12-01-2023 05:43 PM

Disagree C & O. People don’t remember single games unless they saw it. Even if it had huge historical importance, people hardly remember Alan Ameche/Unitas and the greatest game ever played (it still is the greatest game considering that it was what sold america on TV and football). You are an historian so you will remember those two games. No casual fan, like most people are, will.

Colts And Orioles 12-01-2023 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by YDFL Commish (Post 284655)




The Panthers' roster isn't that bad ...... why can't you admit that Reich is a bad coach ???





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Reich is a bad coach ........ and the Panthers' roster is horrible. Those 2 concepts are not mutually exclusive of one another.


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Colts And Orioles 12-02-2023 02:13 PM

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On many occasions, I have done major turnarounds in my opinion(s) on a player, a coach, and a team ...... in January of 2013, I asserted that ) Case Keenum ) would have a longer and more distinguished career than ) Andrew Luck. ) :o


But I am not alone in my reversals of my feelings ...... these are some posts following the 2018 season, a season in which Frank Reich was named the AFC Coach of the Year.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65773



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Originally Posted by Thorgrim (Post 107057)



Yeah, we definitely ended up with the best coach. Next year should be “epic”, as well.





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Originally Posted by Spike (Post 107063)



Hell of a coach. Damned glad that McDouch decided to stay in NE. The future looks extremely bright with Reich and Ballard.





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Originally Posted by ChoppedWood (Post 107069)



I said it even before we ended up with him ...... this was the guy that I wanted, and hot damn does he represent everything RIGHT about this thing. That's a coach right there. And fuck yes, coaching matters !!!




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ChoppedWood 12-02-2023 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 284696)
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On many occasions, I have done major turnarounds in my opinion(s) on a player, a coach, and a team ...... in January of 2013, I asserted that ) Case Keenum ) would have a longer and more distinguished career than ) Andrew Luck. ) :o


But I am not alone in my reversals of my feelings ...... these are some posts following the 2018 season, a season in which Frank Reich was named the AFC Coach of the Year.


http://www.coltfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65773











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Have said without hesitation that I was DELIGHTED when Mcturd bailed and they went with Frank. And for a while there was promise. Something went wrong and when it did, wow the rotting was rapid and pervasive.

Oldcolt 12-02-2023 07:44 PM

Coaching is weird. Frank started out great, I thought we had a long term answer, just like I do know. While it is tough to do it for a year, it is much harder to repeat your success year after year. It takes players who not only are good but buy into what you are trying to do. For whatever reason, Frank couldn’t pull that off. He is set for life monetarily so he did it well enough to get that. Man has other things in his life (being a minister and all), maybe that is the issue, having options. Steichen seems to be all football, if it doesn’t work out for him he looks hosed.

So I am with you C&O, my opinions change all the time. It is good to remember that lest I get too cocky.

Colts And Orioles 12-02-2023 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 284714)



Coaching is weird. Frank started out great, I thought we had a long term answer, just like I do know. While it is tough to do it for a year, it is much harder to repeat your success year after year. It takes players who not only are good but buy into what you are trying to do. For whatever reason, Frank couldn’t pull that off. He is set for life monetarily so he did it well enough to get that. Man has other things in his life (being a minister and all), maybe that is the issue, having options. Steichen seems to be all football, if it doesn’t work out for him he looks hosed.


So I am with you C&O, my opinions change all the time. It is good to remember, lest I get too cocky.




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The Ghosts of Football Past.




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ChaosTheory 12-02-2023 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Colts And Orioles (Post 284696)
But I am not alone in my reversals of my feelings ...... these are some posts following the 2018 season, a season in which Frank Reich was named the AFC Coach of the Year.

Hey, we're probably a dropped MAC pass away from "too much analytics."

I've had the inkling for a while... and I'm surely getting ahead of myself by mentioning at this point in the season... but I was thinking this season could have a similar (not same) vibe to '21.

Bit of a liability at QB, but sneaky good defense and OL/ run game that made for a scrappy, overlooked team... took a while to settle in after a rough early season, got on a roll, and became everyone's favorite dark horse. It was fun while it happened. Got ugly after.

Again, it's too early, but it feels like we're a scrappy team that'll be in the discussion til the end, which was not the feel a few weeks ago. We lack the opportunity for statement wins like BUF, NE, ARZ that '21 had.

But on the flip side, that means an easier schedule to punch your ticket. Then go '95 mode and upset some teams' Januaries. Like I said, too early... but fun to think about.

Colts And Orioles 12-02-2023 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Oldcolt (Post 284462)



It is striking that this is almost the exact same cast of characters manning the offense as last year. They look like a professional team this year, not so much last year. Nobody is quitting on the team. It is a nice change.




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The 2022 Colts were 3-5-1 under Reich, and then 1-7 under Saturday ...... it was the first time since 2011 that the season couldn't end soon enough.

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Chromeburn 12-03-2023 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheMugwump (Post 284649)
Depends on where you live.

In Indy, he'll be remembered as a failed coach.

In Carolina, he'll be remembered both as the franchise's first ever starting QB, and as a failed coach.

In Buffalo and Maryland, he'll be remembered almost solely as the author of magical comebacks.

In the rest of the country, it's likely half and half.

He’ll be remembered longest in Philly for helping bring their first superbowl, developing a great gameplan that beat the top dynasty of the time and Philly special or whatever it’s called.

I think he’s an ok coach, he got a bit of a raw deal. Different QB every year. If he had Luck the entire time I think the system would have been good, better than the Pagano era. Now it seems he wanted Stroud. Which makes sense to me because at Strouds pro day Reich was talking like they were going to take him. Then after that the tone changed, makes sense now that the owner made the decision. Owner has been labeled a “fan” and that’s a bad combo in an owner who is new to football. Irsay is a fan, but he grew up around the team and was its GM at one point. He was a bad GM, but he can appreciate what the job requires.


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